Korea: A founder of Church founder continued … is THE founder. A living God for his flock, he fills stadiums to each sermon. A guy who said that the Japanese paganism was punished by the tsunami, and so on of the best on abortion, l. .. homosexuality and so on. Among other things, this good pastor plays golf with the Korean President while his campaign financing. Korean president's campaign funded by dirty money? … Not … it would not be seen. @ Oscar: On the contrary, I think it is healthy for everyone to denounce these manipulations of the masses, to help all those naive to open their eyes, not to be manipulated stupidly.

No need to go to Korea, the United States some Protestant churches have rightly said, has anyone who would listen that Katrina had been sent by God to punish the people of New Orleans in their lives of debauchery. Recently, Texas Governor Rick Perry, is organizing a collective prayer for rain, because Texas is experiencing unprecedented drought. Superstitions know no limit.

I do not know, and for me it does not matter! do not confuse religion or God and his representatives! well: it is not because there are fanatics and fundamentalists throughout the world that it must be! according to the Christ: those who think too much on material things are not good followers! that's their problem!

I do not give money to churches or any religious sect.

>> "The Church" is that?

Generally when we speak of the Church without qualification on a general forum, we think the Catholic Church. This is not the case here. This is a church evangelist. Do not interfere with towels tea towels … In the Catholic Church, the St. Peter's Pence (donations made by the diocese) to 43 million euros, down 7.4% over 2003. These funds were intended, on the Pope's desire "to charitable interventions to alleviate the suffering of populations affected by natural disasters, to support initiatives for orphans affected by armed conflict or AIDS." Note that the budget of the Vatican is relatively low. Just compare to be convinced. For example it is two and half below that of the General Council of Maine et Loire (497, 2 million in 2005), much lower than the budget of a city like Los Angeles (250, 27 million euros 2005). The Holy See's budget is roughly equal to that of a city. The Holy See's budget is roughly equal to that of a French Villemoyenne. Papal buildings are misleading! We say that the owner of such splendors to be rich. Las! This is not the case for a long time …

Yes you are right pensassa, usually when talking about the Church without qualification on a general forum, we think the Catholic Church. This is not the case here. This is a church evangelist. Do not interfere with towels tea towels … lol although throughout history, "most holy and long history" of the Catholic Church, the towels were how could we say … ? Dirty, very very dirty, very smelly, covered without dried mud and seminal fluid dispersed by their "sanctities" successive! Oh so anyway, see Alexander VI Borgia including "sanctities"! That said, so if in the Catholic Church, the denier of St. Peter (donations made by the diocese) to 43 million, and even if it is down 7.4% over 2003 and if these funds were intended, on the Pope's desire "to charitable interventions to alleviate the suffering of populations affected by natural disasters, to support. ? Dirty, very very dirty, very smelly, covered without dried mud and seminal fluid dispersed by their "sanctities" successive! Oh so anyway, see Alexander VI Borgia including "sanctities"! That said, so if in the Catholic Church, the denier of St. Peter (donations made by the diocese) to 43 million, and even if it is down 7.4% over 2003 and if these funds were intended, on the Pope's desire "to charitable interventions to alleviate the suffering of populations affected by natural disasters, support for orphans desinitiatives victims of armed conflict or AIDS." How many Haitians received the papal treasury? You have some reliable and verifiable data? Pensassa thank you. Because it is not to say, but they still have "a little" feet in the water!

I am neither for nor against …. There are certain circumstances that it is better that a woman become a mother at some point, be it a question of age or refusal to be a mother

I am "for" the fact respect the choice of women without judging them and I am voting for the issue of abortion. The debate has no interest and questions even hides a moral foundation. Throughout history, women have failed in one way or another. Legalizing abortion is used to prevent abortion is a carnage. So the question is it: one is for the law authorizing abortion or abortion at all? The woman decides, I think. This is attached to the freedom she has to have his own body. So I do not see what the debate should still take place on this.

when one takes action must be assumer.si you and I have come to the world why not let autres.la majority of those who have abortions regret it later in life

I am against.

This is not to be, but having the choice and opportunity to do so in extreme cases it is the freedom of women. I can not thank enough Madame Simone Veil, to fight it led, insults she endured, to have the opportunity today to be free about it

I am against abortion its criminal

Never to have seen happen to the emergency room on Friday or Saturday night women "tringlées" by who knows who, bloodless, feverish, sometimes half-dead – by hemorrhage or sepsis, so I'm for prevention. Termination of pregnancy under medical supervision is beneficial in that. But alas … unfortunately for some it is a contraceptive, negligence, forgetfulness, or laziness. We do not reduce the number of pregnancy terminations as birth control pills available, reimbursement for most family planning and supports teenagers who request them.

How to understand Exodus 21:22,23: "If men fight, they actually encounter a pregnant woman and her children out, but without a fatal accident, it is imperative to impose a compensation according to the owner of the woman will require it, and he will give it through the judges. But if a fatal accident, then you must give soul for soul,

I'm sure God approves of abortion of the child of the devil.

Abortion is possible before 40 days of life of the fetus. Aude 40 days then the soul is breathed into the fetus and abortion is prohibited.

- Religious wars, in the eyes of God, is it legal or is it murder? – When god God asks Abraham (legend I reassure you) to kill his son, is it legal or is it a murder by proxy in the eyes of the applicant (god)? – When God gives Cain kill Abel, is it legal or is it a murder in the eyes of god?

Hi! If it's an accident, an accident and no one is responsible for an accident. But abortion is never an accident, it is a voluntary act (abortion: Abortion). And if it is voluntary, it is murder … – "There will be in your country or one miscarrying or barren. I will fulfill the number of thy days. "(Exodus 23:26). … Because God has commanded! Amen.

Bonsoir Fatal accident is said twice in these two verses. abortion, crime Oh how consent can not be an accident, a crime of murder clearly intended and desired, the mother wanted for X reason (sometimes called by the parent) do not bother to give life without giving up sex. sexual intercourse was made and intended by the Lord God between a man and a woman consecrated by God (who is the inventor of marriage, Genesis 2:24 Ephesians 5:31) 8:13 p.m. Do not murder. is a commandment of God's law Jacques 2 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles against one, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he who said, Thou shalt not commit adultery, said also, Thou shalt not kill. But if you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. crime is to kill a living being with the desire to intentionally kill him. even babies are considered viable because it would have no abortion. babies are considered viable as well, for without abortion auraientnormalement he lived. This takes us back a little massacre of the innocents Herod decreed that the demon to kill the newborn Christ, fortunately without success. The accident is rather seen in the case of an unwanted abortion by the mother

What is abortion? Abortion is the expulsion of an embryo or a fetus, under normal conditions, is not viable outside the womb Jehovah He sees an embryo as a human being? "For you knit me (…) you in the womb .(…) Your eyes saw my embryo, and were written in your book all its parts, in terms of days when they were trained and where there was not one of them. " (Psaumes139 :13-16) He who Jehovah is the origin of life (Acts 17:28), the life of a child in the early stages of its development, just after the design has a very large value, so a pregnant woman who was knocked should be compensated and if there was death of the fetus so it was the Mosaic law which came into effect "soul to soul" (Deuteronomy 19:21), a life been removed, another life had to compensate the loss put an end voluntarily (no miscarriage or accident) in the life of a fetus. '(Psaumes139 :13-16) He who Jehovah is the source of human life (Acts 17:28), the life of a child in the early stages of its development, just after the design has a great value, so a pregnant woman who was knocked should be compensated and if there were fetal death so it was the Mosaic law which came into effect "soul to soul" (Deuteronomy 19:21), a life was taken away, another life had to compensate the loss Ending voluntarily (no miscarriage or accident) to the life of a fœtusest considered by the God of the Bible as a murder ..

To enable everyone to have the choice to live and die with dignity. I do not understand the positions of the anti-euthanasia. Allow euthanasia does not make systematic, trivial, required! Is not it unethical to force someone to suffer a martyr and especially emotional for years? Those who are against euthanasia are certainly the same people who were against abortion 30 years ago and this practice appears to the crematorium at Auschwitz. Result? 200,000 abortions each year in France today! Switzerland, Belgium, the Netherlands apply assisted suicide so framed. Why not France?

The politicos are too old, they are afraid that the euthanasia that said, I am for euthanasia and against aggressive therapy

There are 2 front lobby to destroy a political party that comes only from the pharmacy and chemistry

No, it goes against the interests of pharmaceutical labs that are a real lobby in France

Hi, This is not a political party that will decide. It's the same people who require the freedom of everyone to choose his way of living and dying without imposing on others. EUTHANASIA … BECAUSE I WANT THE GOOD!

Nazi State?

The problem is the abuse that could be made.

I stick no thumbs down, everyone is free to express themselves. @ Emile, context is French, actually in China, there are things questionable, especially when the child "unique" is a girl

no it's just people who do not fornicate while necessarily … @ Being the only one I still have a poucembas @ Lucas so fortunately you're not sanctimonious if not what it was …. but unlike some I can read without thumb down ME

he must have seen a fetus clinging to the walls of her amniotic sac to fight against the aspiration that will kill him to know (whether we like it or not) it's a murder is committed. After, do as you like, but knowingly

just narrow minds …

no they do not generally

No, not always.

I am an atheist but I believe abortion to be murder. Abortion should not be a means of contraception, as is the case too often. There are lots of ways to not having children.

Many opponents are against abortion because of possible abuses that it can cause. In China, for example, abortions are practiced almost exclusively on the female fetus and it will be after what? It has an abortion until we succeed in laying a toddler in blue eyes? @ Smart Who cares of context! I answered your question point to the line, the fact is that many opponents of abortion (which I do not belong by the way) oppose to prevent future abuses like those found currently in China .

I not attend this kind of character, should be asked directly to them

If I'm not mistaken. Simone Veil was Jewish. Was she once defined as an atheist? In France it may seem surprising that we can take a position as his religious beliefs. But, yes, a vast majority of believers are against abortion. This is not a cliché.

They are also often proponents of the death penalty because "we must not destroy a life given by God" … .

No I do not think so.

no you're in from all sides would admit my daughter to tell me I'd be the first to propose it I do not believe in religion as it is, be nice and not hurting around us, j got a certain number of kids you see but all wanted and not accidentally, it must be a horror to have an unwanted child and I admit that I want to be my grandma but my age Children who will decide, kiss my chip it is not copying machine as

Not all, but the drifts come across .. The anti-abortion religious merely doing what they believe to be good, but if they took the trouble to think, was a time for holy war was not she take the lives of some? Because it was for the good of god? So killing is not allowed in some cases but not to being in others is an unforgivable crime .. The debate would be too long anyway, and some stubborn spirits can never think for themselves ..

Opponents of abortion are people and / or associations, "partly believing, or acting under the influence of traditional social" conservatism "and religious doctrine." They advocate the "right to life" through the defense of the unborn, the disabled child to be born, and opposition to any form of euthanasia and human cloning. … Etc.. The right to life is the expression of a fundamental right that is rooted in tradition and religious precepts of the three monotheistic religions "thou shalt not kill." Religion is the primary motivation and / or source of action of the opponents of abortion. But opponents of abortion themselves are not necessarily all of those "religious" as you say-or near-religion, they rank among the most defenders of life (eg pacifists .. . etc.). I wish you a pleasant day.

Easy to be for or against when we are not concerned by the situation … At first, I am against abortion because I think it's a murder … (An unborn child is an innocent, a criminal is a pest that is why at the same time I'm for the death penalty …) In the case of unwanted pregnancy should be allowed to the mother that her future child is already in a position to be adopted by a family wanting a child ….. I had was a close friend of mine who has an abortion, and who now no longer able to have children regret that very much .. . On the other hand … I found myself "stuck" once with a friend who I had a few "intimate moments" but without wanting to plan a future together … it was a chance that a "false alarm" but I confess I have not slept for a few nights ….. Severe cases of conscience …..

atheist or believer, man does good, volunteered, did the charity … atheist or believer, man can hurt especially if he is also pushing an ideology by the Vatican before the modern era has waged war, promoted the antisemitism, scientific censorship, kill the apostates and heretics and other … al modern times, the Vatican supports his pope, works of charity and a speech on family planning, the abortion, sexuality that s opposite to that of practitioners, experts, … The Vatican promotes a simplistic view of sexuality and asked his priests to stifle any sex scandal without going through the police, under pain of excommunication (c finally was true a few years ago, today less in countries where the press is organized) the current Pope, the author of these rules, nya seen no problems up to what the media and secular organizations do quite a racket the church can still boast the slightest moral advance when it is packed with many problems?

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In general, I noticed that the Vatican is quite traditionalist American Protestantism where a few steps ahead. This probably traditionalism that generates some of its problems and its inability to solve them. It will take however it finds a path to a configuration more suitable to modern society. Having said this traditionalism seems to avoid some fundamentalist religious sectarianism or maintaining separation from secular society in which it is "submitted" and that it does not "submit".

Have you ever forced a woman to abort! and why?

No ^ ^

Bah no! lol

it will not be accepted? " Certainly not. I am opposed in principle to the murder of children in the womb. I do understand that in a very small number of cases: health reasons, defects, etc. … But compelling?? I'm not Cheb Mammi is the worst form of violence against a woman, even worse than rape.

@ Sonnen, if I may, I would have to be a man not to find rape as the most abominable acts …

Question deleted by cults, issue rested. I found this prayer through a qriste (Thanks to him or her). A Prayer shattering intensity. I just wanted to share it and if it can help one of you, the question (and hate criticism that might happen …) will have at least been helpful. The relationship of Prayer is at the end of the matter. ————————————– Please … for an aborted child (say, if possible by the mother) Little Baby I'm sorry to have you refused. Heavenly Father I ask pardon for having withheld your gift of life. The name I chose for my baby is (ie the Christian name chosen for your child) Father Creator, now accept the child you gave me, I welcome it in Thy love and I declare that I love like you love her, I receive you as a great gift in my breast for him to grow month after month, until its birth. I want to give her life for it. I want to give her life for qu'ilsoit happy. This beloved child, I'll restores all my heart. I leave that to your mother, my mother, his mother the Virgin Mary standing at the foot of the Cross, for her to put in Your open side, pierced in Your Heart, O Jesus. Merciful Lord Jesus, heal me and frees my mind completely of any painful memories and trauma. Deliver my child and myself from any influence of the spirit of death, and heal my child from all his wounds of rejection and lack of love. Fills the Ta-Ta peace and joy that he rejoices in You, forever. Keep it on your Mary Immaculate Heart of Mother until, again, I can, I also take him in my arms and give her a kiss. Amen! ————————————– … I hope this prayer can comfort you a little or help. The link with the Prayer and some aid: http://www.mariereine.com/affiche.php3?ID=590&categorie=6 God bless all of His Love sad moms and all babies. Php3? ID = 590 & category = 6 May God Bless His love for all mothers and all bébésavortés sad. @ Added: This question is not there to judge or accuse the contrary, but those who see evil everywhere can not speak evil. @ Nina: Some women are sad after a lifetime act, and even others are traumatized … This kind of prayer can "exorcise" somehow the pain and make them understand that they are guilty of nothing and that their baby is with God.

You could take care of your sins in this Christmas season? It's easy to come give lessons to others! it saves you from everything you look, you've been making ugly this year?

sorry but for me it is a way to do even more harm to mothers who are forced to go through abortion

Only repentance before God can give peace. Isaiah 53, 3-6: 53.3 despised and rejected of men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief, like that we hid his face, as we have despised, we made him not. 53.4 However, it is our suffering it has brought, is our pain he was in charge, and we esteemed him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. 53.5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, crushed for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him, And by His wounds we are healed. 53.6 We had all gone astray like sheep, each following its own path, And the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. Abortion is the wrong solution, because God hears the prayers of those who are in distress and in need of His grace must still have faith. People who have had abortions need to repent to God, because it is a crime. The soul is immortal, and aborted souls. The soul is immortal, and the souls are reincarnated and still avortéesexistent. Abortion will always be marked in the memories eternal children "killed". See Council of Constantinople II: "The Council of Constantinople II (553) is where the Church suppresses reincarnation, which however had always been preached …". http://pages.intnet.mu/ramsurat/Jesus/Conciles.html Videos about reincarnation: http://www.google.fr/search?q=R% C3% A9incarnation + evidence & hl = en & client = safari & rls = en & PRMD = ivns & source = univ & tbs = vid: 1 & TBO = u & ei = jvUOTduKBIK28QO0qqyFBw & sa = X & oi = video_result_group & ct = title & resnum = 2 & ved = 0CCwQqwQwAQ Note: The reincarnation is true in many cases, but there is no salvation outside of Jesus Christ. Converting a Buddhist to Christianity: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1wuzl_jesus-christ-est-vivant-je-l-ai-vu_people

if the abortion was to save the life of the mother I said, you will have another inchalah otherwise I would say this is a big sin and you will pay dearly if you do not sincerely repented

It is a very beautiful and very touching prayer. For all women who have had abortions and whatever their reason, they find peace in our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

it is a crime even if there are extenuating circumstances

abortion, homosexuality, selfishness, thong, wear, individualism etc ,….

're openly homophobic and you just treat others as racist, really clears up small m.rde.

Ta-ta-ta. I do not agree on some points … Abortion and homosexuality are not generally a problem for the religious.

what connection with homosexuality and the string? it is a pity party … you were much mdrrr

Sorry, it's everything that violates your moral Islamic fundamentalist … your spiritual guide not only was his name Tariq Ramadan, by chance?

And what's your morality? Stoning, submission, sucking stones to pray before a book meaningless? I prefer to put down a girl in a bitter strng that religious crap that spews from sleeping in front of an audience who do not care what he says;)

Your examples are puzzled me – right to abortion and gay rights do not violate morality – selfish, string, individualism and wear were never called "progress"

it is immoral to save the life of a young woman leaving the abortion? Is it immoral to make others happy? Signall abuse.

At each time its evolution – the point is that "progress" like the locals – Whether it displeases people who immigrate to our country we have no problem – "the most uncomfortable go"

The Zionist antimorality leads us right to the religion of the Antichrist. But it also includes anti-racism. All the more vicious it encourages immigrants to victimize, and therefore behave as weak, impotent and that maximizes the frustration. You will notice that racism is the opposite and the perversion of respect for others recommended in the scriptures. They teach to see God in the other man, the divine spark, to welcome out of respect for God. Anti-racism taught to pose as victim, weak, whiny and projecting this weakness on a group that says prejudiced helpless victim of racism. Now we all know if we have a little experience that will inevitably come across people who will have a priori on us because of our sex / age / appearance / clothing / art and can make them change their minds by Note this behavior is still an advantage to this anti-corporation: by doing the reverse of what you sell and extol the media, you might not get it wrong a lot.

Pace that progress does not care about morals! @ Descarte0 A Prophet who married a 6 year old girl is serious and certainly not racist

The noblest of the prophets married a 6 year old daughter was not immoral at the time

thee well a Muslim!

Ah, the Middle Ages, what holy days: no abortions, no marriages between men, and especially the presence of Charles Martel … Oh, there considered as epileptics owned, Christianity reigned true religious dictatorship – heretics still remember it – and the easement gave the vulgus pecum social status just above the slave, but hey, this is all trifles! Ribouldingue, I know the Middle Ages more than you think. If I were fed the usual clichés, I committed the following errors: – Women's execrable (thank you to Regina Pernoud have crossed my path) – Science and Technology in neutral (while the bases current science were laid at the M-A) – poor hygiene (or the life expectancy was longer than we said) etc etc … The historians of the classical period have indeed left a vision nightmare of the medieval period, until, in fact, give the name of "Middle Ages" … Do you have any arguments, however,. Do you have any arguments, however, to counter what I say on the consideration of the mentally ill, the stranglehold of Christianity and the hierarchy of society? Ribouldingue & Al, you should just inform Fascione-victim, it seems somewhat ignorant on the subject. It would be better than to lend me words and thoughts that are not mine … Lisbeth Jeanne Bourin! Game of Temptation was more … Marina Vlady, Henri and Sophie Barjac Virlogeux playing in the TV adaptation, which was a success in the early 80s, but I'm talking about a time that people under 40 years can not know! …

bah could return under Napoleon it would far less ^ ^ Where even under de Gaulle, at the time of full employment, consumerism.

yes that's right, and you do not wash, eh? What a vision of the Middle Ages purely bookish, the republic has taken great care to transform the era of the cathedrals in dark times …. I would love to do if only for the food. And no pollution! And actually no immigrants. It was like today, finally, nothing has changed, better to be rich and healthy ….. etc!

Ah no, would rather die! not the time when I liked it the '50s, with these bad boys black jackets etc. … dancing … dancing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0vXxH1IEmQ&feature = What fvst bah! lol

continues to defend your little friends cpf when France will look to Iran you serras obliged to shake the walls and make discreet to avoid being hung on a football goal post

we will come back quickly because it is the barbarian invasions that plunged the ancient "enlightened" in the Middle Ages "obscurantist." Same cause, same effect!

You should read Pernoud Regine, you will realize that everything you think you know about the Middle Ages are only snapshots. Http://passionmedievale.sixieme-cercle.com/lire/pernoud_pourenfini.html

At this range of debilitated, it lacks the famous cliché: "It was the Dark Age of Europe" and you're there! This vision is now contradicted by all medievalists. Goodbye.

In Poland there is no abortion legal – I mean, no marriages between men and very few Muslims … No need to travel back in time when a journey of 2 hours is enough: the Poles do not live worse than us so far eh .

We return … lack of reading, brutalization by games and other religions, poverty, the king at the Elysee …

For 24 hours only!

And how I love! Golden Age for women who had access to all areas which were previously denied. She was financially free was a time "holy". Major in 12 years it can manage its own property, vote and marry the man of her choice. Read "The House of Angels" from I do not know that and I lug look ^ ^ @ Olive stops a bit, I'm not 20 years so I understand it ^ ^

Abortion: we can ban gay marriage: as

if we can do the muzzulmerdes, it will be the stone age, so we fall back against AC: NAVY in 2012!

For you because epilepsy is a mental illness, Olive? Dammit, if there is one on qr, he will love … That is a neurological grade, the middle ages is easily confused with intoxication with ergot. When we ' no special treatment, the only solution is prayer, Olive. … To Christianity not in the Middle Ages. There was a shift gradually. . I would say that the Church has become tyrannical when the crusade against the Albigenses. As for the hierarchy of society … at least one sarkome not likely to happen to the supreme power … Was it really bad?