Christian fundamentalists who kidnap disturbing, kidnap, and god knows what else, women to prevent abortion, what anti-abortion advocacy! This is clearly a demonization of those nasty white Christians who object to their people end up in the garbage of human slaughterhouses note the complete reversal of values typical satanic bastards save the children, the heroes … remove http://youtu.be/sn_Iq9D_Clg to the memory of 6 million young French victim of the holocaust of the witch Talmudic Weil

is a very sensitive issue that you raised here … I'm not sure which is more wrong with it. For those who destroy their little personal comforts or someone who seeks to prevent by force and violence …, when God himself let him do … So it is that I am speaking purely human. In my opinion the company should try to save these creatures and when they are adults, so they can decide for themselves about their lives and those who sought their removal (whether or not their mothers live or not?). For what is right is reciprocal … you, who loves the subjects Nazis, you know that home is society, governance of it who decided that if a class of individuals should or should not be able to stay alive. The disabled were considered harmful to society and many deleted as unnecessary now as of old, bulky are almost (there is not great thing to do) … since God is increasingly excluded from. since God is increasingly excluded ofOur world, small, those who can live only by our goodwill, which are left entirely to us … find themselves increasingly at risk … I hope God will judge any homicide. We can not give life, so him. To Him to judge … and not to man …

You have the right to think what you want! you're not in the body of a woman and you will not be probably never able to understand what can lead to such an act! Ms. Veil deserves a little more respect ….. and I do not care about religion and yours ….. What do you think of women raped by beautiful blonde with blue eyes, to procreate and take the children and boys and girls of the same profiles, stolen from their parents to be educated in the doctrine of Adolf by "parents chosen by the fascists ?

Abortion in France is such that what is removed from the body of the woman who wants an abortion, not a living being, but a bunch of cells with no conscience or soul, it is medically and scientifically proven. If I follow your reasoning to the end, removing a bunch of cells with no conscience or soul is a murder? So removing a tumor or cancer, piles of cells without conscience or soul, is a muertre? And remove a cancer patient to someone is to kill a little French? The cancer survivors are likely to be pleased to know they are murderers … In memory of the 120,000 French who really existed and died by the will of Hitler's war. In memory of thousands of German children, a victim of sterilization policy launched by Hitler. Aurelien @: While I totally agree with you, a child is learning much more than that, and it 'has nothing to do with cancer But that's only our point of view. It is you who see it as a child. Technically, this is not a child:. Technically, this is not a child: no lungs, no heart, no brain, nothing but cells. I do not know if you see the nuance. It is our vision that makes him a child, in fact they are nothing but cells.

@ Return: a comparison to be training to cancer is really charming! Do you have children? If so, tell them what you thought of them early in their lives, they will be happy! If not, we understand better … Pile of cells without soul scientifically and medically proven? Here, then, I'm a doctor, and my colleagues admit themselves that they can not explain everything!

the right to life, but yes ….

The FN is not a paradox.

You tell that to parents who have seen their kids screw up by being sick!

fn is the disposition of the mind

Death penalty for all the gauchos!

there is a difference between what the MLP said and what is written in are "program" – for the moment she said was not wanting to touch the abortion law but in the FN's program there is a paragraph on the unclear protection of life from conception to death – with a couple who would supposedly referrendum performs … I think the FN is definitely something against abortion but is not stupid as to say it now – c surprise for later lol say we are for the death penalty, c catchy especially recalling some facts Miscellaneous – be honest and say that in countries where it applies no less crime is much less. Justice has a duty to protect society not to allow the latter to satisfy his revenge. And c another debate.

c-sick habit of mixing all those who make the case for anti fn – and why a person who kill him is absolutely live – especially at our expense, the death penalty in heinous crimes I'm for – yet I'm not no party – when I'm al abortion but not against it should be at the expense of the person and not a whole society to pay

Yes and no, there is, in this political party, the idea appears to exclude those who hurt very badly in society and its members.

Question deleted by cults, issue rested. I found this prayer through a qriste (Thanks to him or her). A Prayer shattering intensity. I just wanted to share it and if it can help one of you, the question (and hate criticism that might happen …) will have at least been helpful. The relationship of Prayer is at the end of the matter. ————————————– Please … for an aborted child (say, if possible by the mother) Little Baby I'm sorry to have you refused. Heavenly Father I ask pardon for having withheld your gift of life. The name I chose for my baby is (ie the Christian name chosen for your child) Father Creator, now accept the child you gave me, I welcome it in Thy love and I declare that I love like you love her, I receive you as a great gift in my breast for him to grow month after month, until its birth. I want to give her life for it. I want to give her life for qu'ilsoit happy. This beloved child, I'll restores all my heart. I leave that to your mother, my mother, his mother the Virgin Mary standing at the foot of the Cross, for her to put in Your open side, pierced in Your Heart, O Jesus. Merciful Lord Jesus, heal me and frees my mind completely of any painful memories and trauma. Deliver my child and myself from any influence of the spirit of death, and heal my child from all his wounds of rejection and lack of love. Fills the Ta-Ta peace and joy that he rejoices in You, forever. Keep it on your Mary Immaculate Heart of Mother until, again, I can, I also take him in my arms and give her a kiss. Amen! ————————————– … I hope this prayer can comfort you a little or help. The link with the Prayer and some aid: http://www.mariereine.com/affiche.php3?ID=590&categorie=6 God bless all of His Love sad moms and all babies. Php3? ID = 590 & category = 6 May God Bless His love for all mothers and all bébésavortés sad. @ Added: This question is not there to judge or accuse the contrary, but those who see evil everywhere can not speak evil. @ Nina: Some women are sad after a lifetime act, and even others are traumatized … This kind of prayer can "exorcise" somehow the pain and make them understand that they are guilty of nothing and that their baby is with God.

You could take care of your sins in this Christmas season? It's easy to come give lessons to others! it saves you from everything you look, you've been making ugly this year?

sorry but for me it is a way to do even more harm to mothers who are forced to go through abortion

Only repentance before God can give peace. Isaiah 53, 3-6: 53.3 despised and rejected of men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief, like that we hid his face, as we have despised, we made him not. 53.4 However, it is our suffering it has brought, is our pain he was in charge, and we esteemed him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. 53.5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, crushed for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him, And by His wounds we are healed. 53.6 We had all gone astray like sheep, each following its own path, And the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all. Abortion is the wrong solution, because God hears the prayers of those who are in distress and in need of His grace must still have faith. People who have had abortions need to repent to God, because it is a crime. The soul is immortal, and aborted souls. The soul is immortal, and the souls are reincarnated and still avortéesexistent. Abortion will always be marked in the memories eternal children "killed". See Council of Constantinople II: "The Council of Constantinople II (553) is where the Church suppresses reincarnation, which however had always been preached …". http://pages.intnet.mu/ramsurat/Jesus/Conciles.html Videos about reincarnation: http://www.google.fr/search?q=R% C3% A9incarnation + evidence & hl = en & client = safari & rls = en & PRMD = ivns & source = univ & tbs = vid: 1 & TBO = u & ei = jvUOTduKBIK28QO0qqyFBw & sa = X & oi = video_result_group & ct = title & resnum = 2 & ved = 0CCwQqwQwAQ Note: The reincarnation is true in many cases, but there is no salvation outside of Jesus Christ. Converting a Buddhist to Christianity: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1wuzl_jesus-christ-est-vivant-je-l-ai-vu_people

if the abortion was to save the life of the mother I said, you will have another inchalah otherwise I would say this is a big sin and you will pay dearly if you do not sincerely repented

It is a very beautiful and very touching prayer. For all women who have had abortions and whatever their reason, they find peace in our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.

it is a crime even if there are extenuating circumstances

But I do not because even if humans for abortion is nothing before God and the people concerned will have to answer for murder. The world is completely ASSHOLE. I would like to respond a little to all these messages because I can not answer each individually, however I will like! Do not confuse everything there are millions of abortions each year worldwide for a yes or a no girls that have abortions! regarding orphan diseases by severity I think it's a matter of conscience (but a tiny percentage of all those abortions). Yes as long as the egg is fertilized it becomes a life on its own, for evidence in the Bible under the Mosaic law a person who "bumped" a pregnant woman and the baby if she lost the person who had bumped die was because it was a life for a life. It is God who made these laws which proves that even an embryo in any hour is a living thing in itself. Genetic code are already registered,. Genetic code are already registered, the color of her eyes, her hair, which he resembled his father or his mother, etc. …

You are against abortion is but what do you think of contraception? And sex education? Because for me the best weapon to bring down the number of abortions is better access to contraception and sex education for girls and boys. What do you think?

An embryo is not a baby, simply. And your god should answer for the murder of all children born dead, all miscarriages and babies u lost to accidents as we are! I also assign to the course for the Tsunami in Southeast Asia: 300,000 dead and for the storm in New Orleans! He better have a fucking god your lawyer! @ Dding: ha! That's it! I'm pissed! if so … So for you, the ultimate proof that biblical interpretation!? Ah bravo level of thinking. If you accidentally pushes a woman and she loses her baby must be killed! That is just divine justice for you right? Well let me tell you that your justice craind a max and I am very glad that our society does not enforce it. Your bible also justified slavery I remind you, do I conclude that you disapprove strongly the abolition of slavery? I would love to see you defend this abmination quoting the Bible, it would make me laugh! An embryo is not a living being,. Your bible also justified slavery I remind you, do I conclude that you disapprove strongly the abolition of slavery? I would love to see you defend this abmination quoting the Bible, it would make me laugh! An embryo is not a living being is just a cluster of cells. A living being has a minimum of autonomy, the embryo: 0. As mentioned in religious texts for "evidence", I recall that the Egis authorized the killing of up to 4 months pregnant, because she regarded the baby as not living up to four months. So, reversals jackets when it suits you …

A fetus is not a baby. No more than a sperm … When you dump the puree, 40 million sperm on average, what is it then, genocide?

If you had worked in psychiatry and as I saw this live as babies from birth you would have perhaps a different perception. All those who make an abortion is a déchirrement for them, do not forget that in time the women brushed against death for abortion but is it better to keep a child who does not and who will be unhappy all his life? What is regrettable is that in China where they can have only one child and India, where dowry is compulsory for a girl to marry is about making abortions as well as infanticide of girls.

this terrible case of conscience must no longer be present on the table. science has put at the service of humanity. each person who is sexually active must take its responsibility and protect women and men. préservatifs.vasectomie, pills, ect many choices. for unconscious? 's tans the worse for them.

a question. if you learn one day that your future child's disease harlequin http://www.google.com/images?hl=fr&safe=off&q=harlequin% 20ictiosis & um = 1 & ie = UTF-8 & source = & sa = N og & tab = wi & biw = 1280 & bih = 805 or any shit like this is horrible. what will you do? thou shalt have the courage or the nerve I know not to give birth to a sensitive human being with a functioning nervous system allows him to feel pain, knowing full well that all his life (he died pTet immediately , maybe in 10 or 40 years) will only PURE PAIN every gesture he will do. whenever it will even bend the arm, his skin will tear. it will likely end up like him http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/bd/Partyman.jpg because that's what you have as a child. a living being who suffers Constantly. knowing that if the early months of pregnancy you have the hypocrisy to tell me that you will ensure that it is happy until his death, forgive me insult you but you're really a big. knowing that if the early months of pregnancy you have the hypocrisy to tell me that you will ensure that it is happy until his death, forgive me insult you but you're really a grosconnard. it comes from the heart, forgiveness. because it will never change the fact that he will suffer permanent and it will grow so very weird. and I sincerely hope that these images shocked thee! because it gets worse as orphan disease detectable from pregnancy. Today in 2011 the technology allows us to ensure that people can be born happy or die happy. unfortunately perverse religious concepts like the soul ect, not only hamper scientific progress, but also did nothing to fuck man (who is the first question I think)! it's so easy to invoke God to justify the suffering of others! kind with euthanasia. when you have a patient who wishes to have shortened his suffering, the doctor agrees, but you always relatives, religion crap with any erroneous concepts of Good and Evil and without empathy (the ability to put themselves in the shoes of someone else and ask if we would like that), who say no because only

http://www.mariereine.com/affiche.php3?ID=590&categorie=6

If they were men who had had birth, abortion was never a crime. I agree it is an evil, but a lesser evil!

There are actually tens of millions of abortions worldwide each year. This practice homicide is considered "normal" for the simple reason that there is a general hardening of human consciousness: "However, the inspired word clearly says that in times to come some will abandon the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons, 2 by the hypocrisy of men who tell lies, as being branded in their consciousness "(Timothy 4:1,2. Bible).

Hello! Life begins at fertilization. thus aborted a child is a life interrupted. Humans are not allowed to interrupt an innocent life. Deliberately cause an abortion by artificial means, by the use of drugs or a medical operation for the sole purpose of avoiding unwanted childbirth is a painful act for the woman both mentally and physically. It is even more violent for children as it does not survive. Life is a precious gift, it is sacred. A 2004 study among 331 Russians and 217 American women who had abortions found that in each half of the women subsequently experienced an unpleasant feeling, almost 50% of Russians and 80% of Americans felt 'guilty', and over 60% of Americans' do not forgive. " They are frequently subjected to pressure. Parents, spouse or well-meaning friends saying, "Of two evils one must choose the lesser" argument. Parents, spouse or well-meaning friends saying, "Of two evils one must choose the lesser" argument quipeut lead to a hasty decision and poorly lit. "But," says Priscilla Coleman, a specialist risk of abortion for mental health, once the stress of decision making and the abortion took place, the cognitive abilities of women returning to normal and deep guilt, sadness and regret settled. "Regret is usually around the question of abortion he put an end to what was already a life? According to the report of a study group on abortion (South Dakota), many women considering abortion "were misled: they believed that not take away anything other than cluster of cells'. If they had been told the truth, they would not abort. "After a summary of the" surprising and heartbreaking testimony "from 1940 women who had abortions, the study concluded:" The grief of losing a child, they were told, did not exist for many causes of anger . ". "Moreover," the psychological harm caused to a woman who knows she killed her child is often devastating. " A 2006 study focused on the lives of many women, adolescent girls were pregnant. Half of them had kept the child and the other half had failed. The study found that "the odds of receiving therapy, have problems sleeping and smoking marijuana were lower in cases of childbirth than in abortion cases." – Journal of Youth and Adolescence. Another report provided "the results of four studies of the most advanced worldwide. What we learned? That "the rate of psychological problems are higher among women who had abortions than among those who kept their child. "- Report of the Task Force on Abortion, South Dakota, 2005 In the end, everyone is free, but there are consequences in every decision: caring for a child when we are. "- Report of the Task Force on Abortion, South Dakota, 2005 In the end, everyone is free, but there are consequences in every decision: caring for a child when we estadolescent, or kill her child. The best thing is to have physical relationships when one is married couple, able to accommodate a child. Because we must not forget that the relations of this type are basically an expression of love that two people are doing, but also and above all a means to procreate. The solution is to teach young people that intimate relationships are sacred and they should not be taken lightly because they can give life to a person whom will be responsible. Good day!

The choice of abortion is primarily the woman and not a God who probably does not exist.

there was slaughter in the South and North Kivu, Congo Roayume. Several deaths on Sudan "Somalia" War in Congo Brazzaville, More deaths in the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire, several deaths in Angola almost everywhere in Africa rien.Plusieurs coup. It is the union boss who Euroépenne Africa, and did not intervene. Understand that we are called to repentance and conversion to head narmale of life that is happy and eternal in Jesus Christ, the Prince of Life. Do not judge, said, Jesus of Nazareth. We want to create new rules of good political governance, economic and financial planet because justice is a people growing up, but the sin is the shame of a nation. When life goes from bad to worse, we must have recourse to Jesus of Nazareth "God from true God who created us. Marriage does not like to be faillite.il secuiriser social life of the people, police and military basis of each country's national economonie the planet.

not me because I was looking for a baby for 20 years

looks like this instead: it happened a month ago and already 22 million hits! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXh7JR9oKVE&feature=player_embedded #! Happy Holidays

I will respond the same way I did it to another question on abortion. For those who do not want to admit the horror of abortion, to learn more: There are a lot of sites on the Internet where you can see the sad truth. Where you can see ultrasound pictures of fetus week by week, and also photos / videos of actual abortions that are unbearable for me. So do not forget the obvious! A fetus at 12 weeks it already looks like a tiny human being, and in some countries abortion is allowed up to 24 weeks or more! The fetus is a living and he suffers. Especially when we know the ways of all abortions that are really horrible. Some babies (especially those in some cases removed by caesarean section) did not die during the abortion, but after this one, yes it sometimes happens that they are still alive and dying after abortion. It's HORRIBLE. Some people should be more responsible. Some people should be more responsablequand the pill and forget … For children who will be born ill-formed, it is true that it's delicate dilemma understandable, or to children born of rape may be understand that it is psychologically hard for a woman to live. You can see things from different angles, but for my part, I am against abortion. Especially since most are of a forgotten pill, or other irresponsible.

the world has no morals!

I personally am not against abortion but it is a bit trivialized and show the truth to the students is a step towards allowing a lucid awareness and knowledge about the thing. Abortion is killing a living being, do not take it lightly!

Because he did not want to indoctrinate students with his own ideas.

videos shown to students must be shocking! and hurt the sensibilities of some students! despite that these videos will reveal a strict truth he did not intend to disclose it without authorization from his superiors! hello everyone!

Bushistes: for the death penalty and against abortion; Commies: against the death penalty and abortion as a right to use in routine Do not touch us here at one of the biggest absurdities produced by our company?

Everything has to be redone, strongly deluge

there is a difference between an adult and a fetus. Consciousness can be? anyway, the death penalty, sometimes I tell myself that it would not be so bad but: 1 / in error can convict an innocent to death, and even 1 / 1000 is unacceptable 2 / seen through the U.S. in particular that it does not prevent crime

It's like Sarko is for immigration and deportation at the same time

You've read when you got drunk? I have absolutely nothing comprendu lol!

Beyond the divide "for / against" etc.., We must see what are the arguments. For the Democrats: – On abortion: An embryo is not a thinking person. This is not a crime to remove a developing being it is not yet a full person capable of thinking. – On the Death Penalty: Justice given by humans is fallible and can not take the risk of killing someone (even if the capital punishment against a heinous crime could be justified). For conservatives: – On abortion: Every life is sacred, there is nothing that has more value. An embryo is a developing being and kill a developing being is a crime. – On the Death Penalty: The nature of the crimes punishable by death justifies taking the risk of killing one (or more) people innocent if it reduces the number of such crimes. I would add, even if life is sacred is God who will sort. I think the Democrats' approach is consistent: They. I think the Democrats' approach is consistent: Ilsne not view the embryo as a whole person, so there is no more crime than abortion for contraception, for example. This does not therefore cons not say the statement about the death penalty condemns the killing of an innocent person. Everything then plays on the notion of "person" can handle 2 questions without cons say. As for Conservatives, they tell us that all life is sacred, even a lifetime in the making, which makes abortion a crime. For cons, the life of a wrongly accused is less important than the safety of the state that sacrificed found to decrease the number of crimes … In this case, actually, I think the two statements are against this and say that this is an absurd argument.

I am more conservative, that is to say pro-life, but we can replace the death penalty by life imprisonment (the real life, not 20 years!).

For these idiots love the life of a murderer than an innocent … point bar …..

you can forget your great ideas between the dictates of biology and sanctified the abortion of 10 weeks maximum, there is a woman being murdered … claim in this case, it borders on animism the "leftists" have defended the right to abortion in a positive way, defending the right of women to have themselves and defending the right of poor women not to end up sterile or downright dead after the illegal gerrymandering, which is not the case for women who have enough money to have an abortion you should also be a little extreme right, right? Normally, they are very committed to the preservation of the bourgeois order by manipulation of the old Christian morality, they are violently anti-people, basically that's why they fail to get a true popular vote is is pragmatic when it comes to treating immigration and crime, it is dogmatic when it comes to dealing with life, except of course when it comes to kill the culprit:

The death penalty I am for, our prisons are full of criminals who kill for pleasure and abortion for women who are raped or other problems of abortion and for Muslims who lay like chickens!

Do you consider masturbation as murder? And oral sex as cannibalism?

Insults are not political currents.

you forgot to say please

All fascitoïdes of extreme right-wing fundamentalist churchy, including those of the UMP, plus new opportunistic Mohammedans who are their alter-egos.

In France? No doubt the domestic front and the "Catholic Right sovereignty" De Villiers …

non-believers are the first to say that we are in a free country, in a democracy, it must be tolerant but when someone thinks differently, it is backward con see. That's your freedom? your democracy? if you feel the right to have your opinions, your ideas, you have to accept that others think differently, you think always right, and others have always wrong, everything you accuse the believers you made yourself you're not actually better than us. Abortion is a crime for me, yes a crime in some countries you can abort up to five months of pregnancy is no longer an embryo but a fetus, a child, what is it disturbing? Ah yes, it shows you face the truth, truth that you are not assuming, yes abortion is horrible and many women never recover. Yes I am disgusted when I see young girls and even women who cry after being reckless with a man and do not assume. Yes I am disgusted when I see young girls and even women who cry after being reckless with a man and who do not lesconséquences! Bouuuuh I am a naughty little extreme you say, but I totally do not care This is not a stranger to the internet that can tell me who I am and I know of no faith who are against abortion and they have kept their child. SAMIRA @ habib there are other alternatives to this kind situation, even if the child is conceived out of marriage we have no right to decide whether a human being is entitled to live or not @ kiela you are the perfect example of stupidity. first I do not live in a city (old prejudice two balls) what is the second report with bar p ***? you can insult the Maghreb all you want, I'm Comoros. reconstructions related to the hymen? you better turn your finger seven times before writing this bunch of nonsense, you're all alone discredits my poor @ ted Give me an argument for abortion, abortion is killing a child realizes you leave? not compare it to racism, then think of what you want

This depends on the situation … If this child was conceived by an inappropriate relationship, it would be better to do the abortion if you can! He should think about his future and what we can guarantee him afterwards, but most do not undertake to repair a fault with another. In another case, which is supposed to be between married, I'm against it. And to you see.

I am not a believer, and I am not against abortion, I do not think it is a crime and we simply points of view, and it does neither you nor me of extremists. There is nothing wrong with that, and those who are in the wrong are rather those who criticize our views, which are indisputable.

There is no harm in being against abortion because it is a crime. Http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index; _ylt = Ak0JVR3koInRqOiTldTW2Zg5Agx.; _ylv = 3? Qid = @ 20100411082001AAT87pW Inches down, how do you call it: http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html

You're not well: my poor and compassion you do not know. Because Muslims do not belong here in the clinic? And there in the corn is far worse. I do not wish you an abortion (I do not know either) but if a guy who knows your city does not take you in the cellar for a rotary – what will you do? And what do you think: Forced marriages of young girls with old perverts cousins? From the overwhelming number of girls in your religion that are in France again hymen? The Maghreb bar whores? "Let her who has never cast the first with errors stone "I do not regard you as a woman and it is not unknown for small miserable and poorly screwed internet that can tell me what is wrong. OKSANA

Democracy and freedom is not to have convictions intolérentes, middle ages and inconsistent. If you thought that, well you're wrong. If tomorrow I say "down all the blacks" or "cancer is good, it will be neither democracy nor freedom, but the stupidity. Humpty @ = Encourage people to guard against future disabled children, finding that a girl of 16 years is spoiling the life of a child under the excuse of "it must assume", claim that the embryo is a human whereas the facts show otherwise, expect rape give children …… all that is NOT based on "respect for human life" and "the equal dignity of all" . Humpty @ = "you have to tell young people" you're not ready / willing to do a kid? Do what it takes to avoid! " >>> Um, yes, we all agree with you, but once that is done? I do not know if you noticed, but we are talking about AFTER the design … not before. It would be good. It would be good quetu followed a bit … "What facts? ">> Well the fact that before the fetal stage, the embryo is not a natural person as the main organs did not appear. This fact. The same fact is accepted by the law and ethics, the same one that protects people like you … "In my case I found that the obvious objective fact the difference is the meeting egg / sperm ">> The problem is that" what concerns you "does not concern us, and do not look at these women who suffer. The embryo is not a separate being. Whether or not you think it will be the same thing, sorry. If I amused myself by saying "in my case, the earth is flat", I'm not sure it would make it really flat. Well there is none. "I hardly consider the fact to find that the life of a disabled child it is better to nip it in the" egg ">> Unfortunately, this proves that you are not very aware of the suffering disabilities engender. If your daughter had a child at 14, qu'elledevrait stop studying and go to work at the factory to bring it to life with a monthly minimum wages, certainly you rethought your capricious judgments. And to answer your reflection on the fact "kill a child," I reply before 3 months of pregnancy, it is not a child, not even a fetus, but an embryo. In no case is a murder, because the embryo is a quasi single cell, ie without consciousness or emotions. Before proclaiming this kind of "pseudo beliefs," we try to learn. It's quite a funny coincidence that those who are anti abortion are always those who know nothing … Finally, I quote: "You have the right to not like black people as you do not disturb keep the peace, so that's democracy. " Not my great, the fact of not liking black people is to judge a community and is punishable by law. It is by no democracy. Because that premium, you do not know thee + in democracy??? I do not you throw the stone, it. Because that premium, you do not know thee + in a democracy??? I do not you throw the stone, making c'esttoujours speak who know the + -… Samira @ = " doctors are against abortion. And then? If tomorrow is a president for the war? If a football star is conducive to racism? If a lawyer is for the death penalty? We should stop confusing "power" and "morality." Doctors are for abortion? Well I'm not surprised: there are people who lack ethics, and there are obscurantist everywhere … even among doctors. "I am opposed to women who do not have the stupid things they have done, it's easy to cry after! ". >> Samira, here it is not a playground. The arrival of a child in poor conditions, it is a little more serious than "must not come crying" or "they have to assume". Everyone makes mistakes, and everybody 's has no chance of being saved from hardship. When a child can avoid potential life miserable, and although we do. And it has far more important than "give a good. And it has far more importance than "give to women who come bonneleçon cry." Unfortunately for you, I know what I say. An embryo is not considered a human life and abortion is not murder, but the impediment of a vital development. It's like that, and it's not me who invented it. Let me guess: in this course, you were at the bottom of the class near the radiator, right? You can stay on your positions contemptuous and naive, but years ago that the world has changed allowing women and children of avoid lives of suffering. You do not accept it? Well it must. Samira @ = I reassure you, you do not work at all for the wicked, any more than for someone in pain experience and knowledge. "Embryo is not considered that human does not mean it is not ">> really? So we are still in the area of your "beliefs", which does not weigh heavily in the balance. "Majority of women who abort are idiots who have been careless with a man who cares a lot". The majority of women who abort are idiots who have been careless with a man who cares not mald'elles">> I'll repeat myself, but here it is not a playground. These women, you treat a silly (contemptuous that! Lol) do not deserve to suffer, and these potential children either. Lives have wasted much more important than your preconceptions about a "silly women" "imprudent" to whom we must "teach a lesson" You're talking about something more serious than your "they are idiots," they just cry "or" their guy does not care. "Samira @ =" t agree ''re too smart you know everything better than everybody you're happy? "Pardon? What is this story? You may think that is important in an exchange of "know everything better than everyone" or to have the last word? You're still here? "I thought that it was serious … So this is it? You lose face? Too bad … Know that I still do not pretend to know better than others. I only remind you that your ideas are in contradiction. I only remind you that your ideas are contradictionavec science and with ethics. Besides, the majority of responses to your question in this direction. Sincerely, Alongado @ = I read your comment, and I wondering what could push a People wanting to impose suffering on women and broken ruin the lives of hundreds of potential children. I found suspect your position, because when you love life, we do not like the wasted lives. And then I continued to read you … and I found dozens of lines of religious proselytism. I understand better.

Let me be very clear: I am pro-abortion's societal and anti-abortion in the personal domain, 1. My wife and I never practiced abortion, we are in this sense against abortion. Abortion is a crime for you, nobody can or has the right to impose on you the opposite … You will never be overwhelmed by abortion, it's your choice! 2. But from a legislative standpoint, I am strongly pro-abortion. Those who want abortion should be able to do so in conditions of hygiene and safety necessary. A paradox? No I am pro-choice, I am for freedom. Especially in this area where the crime is a subjective concept, the question is whether the embryo is a human being or not? I think not, but this does not prevent the embryo already love this … I like my cat who is not a human being …

We, the Judeo Christian tradition from the life begins at conception. They, among other Chinese, from Confucian life begin at birth. Who is right?

is your right and the other with these cities, but really what prejudices! rotating cities, hymen reconstruction: how old you really to make such amalgams inept!

In a simple context, abortion is a crime. But, you see, there are cases that should concern us such as: – Being pregnant after being raped! Keep this embryo, all your life, you go up the stage to the head. What about the child born, son of the rapist ….? Being pregnant and now the doctor finds that the seed that you wear will be an enormous health scandal and he would not survive after ten years. If an early pregnancy, you should stop to avoid the worst of the suffering of the child born before die .. ….. ……. etc. The examples are numerous and difficult. I understand those who are against this but we must also try to understand those who are for …. This is bad, are those who volunteer or those without medical or social …. These are the behaviors of those who offend because they bypass the property based and abuse at will, alas!

There are laws of creation (Acts of God) must always be respected. When humans can be contravened the laws of Nature, it will sooner or later experience the consequences of his actions (reciprocity effect)

Hello, everyone is entitled to his opinions. This will assume that the embryo is a piece of flesh, soulless, unconscious, and there is no harm in eliminating it. Maybe some they will consider it as a mistake, bad memories of a relationship arises? Maybe some people will kill convinced that the future will be bleak for him because they did not believe the comfort they need to grow? OF others, they may see as a hindrance to their studies or their freedoms? Or a family who does not wish to instruct a young child whose mother will not have the maturity or the money to good all? Personally, I am persuaded to say that the viability of the fetus plays an important role in our perception of "living". Thus, one can see women trying to go for abortion even in five months, but when one sees very premature to five months to live, with some effects, but also other normal development, I guess it may change our. Share opinions is good, but to declare a façonagressive is like imposing. Impose, in one way or another, is wrong. Thus, we have to see young girls broken by what they imposed on abortion. Not only for the good of the child who was to come, but for them, that they were immature, but also who should enjoy their youth! Personally, I've seen young girls proper care child, and I will add a first child at 16 or 30 years, is still unknown and doubt. In the end, I think I n'avorterai step, but this is my business and I have nothing to say to those who are for abortion, that is their choice, based on reflections of their own arguments. PS: You once told me that I was an unplanned pregnancy by mistake .. just that even if I am like everyone else, I can not imagine that one day well be alive, I was just a cluster of cells known.

Subject Salam very delicate and oh so complex, opinions differ, but do not think according to his own opinion to the dramas unfolding around the world .. The girl of ten years, a victim of incest, she should keep it if she is pregnant? And even at 14 or 13 or 15? Already the trauma, be still a child yourself and raise a child? No, need to think about that too, and then the other? Think about the weakness of human beings and that none is immune to a mistake, should keep them all? As if there were not enough small children living in large rejected home … And women who are tired, who have much and who can no longer follow? (In countries where they have not much to say .. Is the child to suffer the mistakes of these people …? Abortion is done from time immemorial, this is not a matter of acceptance of from others, but a social phenomenon as old as the world began, and which has already caused quite a premature death because. Estl'erreur Where? She should keep it? At the risk of his health and the rest? Is a right that should remain personal to the person concerned, the opinions of others does not involve the inside, as they say "the counselors are not paying"

If you are cons in your case, it is your business. By cons, if you are cons with regard to other women is that you want to decide what they are right or not do with their bodies in their place! And that decide for the others, is the basic principle of fascism! This is a woman's body in a free country, that's her, her and nobody else!

Hello Samira, J'agrée to your point of view. abortion is murder but will say that to those that it suits them and who are slaves to their passion. They are happy to be alive to cry "freedom" but they would be there if their mother had aborted? And when they have children they think for a moment that this child would he have been as abortion? Trivia: When even women, those advocates of abortion are pregnant and want the child to come, even for only one month of pregnancy must see their joy, they immediately run to ultrasound and take care of them for the baby to come. Is not it hypocritical for people who believe that the embryo is not a life? They care about their embryo already one month of pregnancy and encourage other to get rid of 3 months. A life is a life. She does not lose its value in becaufe not want! Must be responsible when having sex, the company wants accusatory towards these. She does not lose its value in becaufe not want! Must be responsible when having sex, the company wants to accusatory towards cesimmoralités there but the fact is that everyone knows what happens maintained when sex, Sex is not a game, you must be responsible and accept the consequences and recognize our hypocrisy and irresponsibility. There is no accident where everyone is aware of the risks . One drunken attack to justice by establishing their liability in accidents fatal road because they were well aware of the risks associated with driving while intoxicated. Similarly, when killing babies who have sex with awareness of the risks, it's all the same. Freedom for everyone, even for babies who can not see! "Nothing justifies murder, it is our society to find solutions to some sensitive cases. You will find that the crime attracts crime, it is time to consider breaking this vicious circle. Being against abortion does not preclude compassion for those who suffer in a devastating emotional state ….

One thing is to have an opinion, it is a sacred right, something else is to impose it on others. One thing is to have the right to choose, something else is having this forced choice. Have your own opinion does not mean that others must follow them.

I've always been against it but not imagine my galley now, with all the children I had with parishioners, and they also listen to my Preaching the idiots, and now I have lots of small children I ruined every Christmas, and it's not with the salary Benoit gives me that I'll get through. No abortion is wrong but would require a derogation from time to time.

In Islam, it is considered to be alive! Abortion is a crime that is exactly the same thing as killing a person 10 years or 50 years for us Muslims, there is no more serious than killing an innocent man! So whatever happens and any situation (relationship, viola, … etc.) is prohibited! it's just like killing a person! regardless of age (one month or 5 months)! @ Belle Zebute: what you say makes no sense! is a living being! he has the right to live right before her mother to the abortion or not! or because the person is to defend it becomes normal! he can not even defend the poor! is his choice to live before choosing her mother and I do not think a person who has not even begun this life will choose to die! is a crime and whoever did should be tried as a criminal

Yeah you got too Samira because I too am too agree with you it is too rebels both, you must too be the one you are you too and not even let you impress no strangers on the internet and if thee too want to say that Twilight is too good as you got the right too, it's not because you're a teenager you're necessarily totally immature.

I see no harm in being against abortion, in fact I am too. What I see is criticism: – Asserting that position by violence or even murder (some lighted in the United States U.S. in particular), weak and inconsistent position with the assertion of being pro-life. Fortunately they are a small minority factions, but they exist, so it must be pointed out, the more they discredit the cause they claim to defend very good. – In contrast to prohibit speech that those who believe it is a crime (and most atrocious, the victim is totally helpless) on behalf of freedom, which is equally incoherent. I co-sign all of the post repented. There are (even if they have to develop) alternatives. But we must help and support, not judge and condemn those who have done so under generally difficult. Denying the long-term psychological impact of abortion is dangerous for women (and their families) to deny the humanity of an embryo is. Denying the long-term psychological impact of abortion is dangerous for women (and their families); deny the humanity of an embryo esttrès arbitrary (and carries risks of landslide hazard on the fact of deciding who can live or not …) @ Ted, the position of most opponents of abortion is very consistent, whatever you say, since it is based on respect for human life and the equal dignity of all ( that which you defend rightly Hinder racism, but neglecting a way that I just found incoherent with those unborn). @ Ted since you still answer me (thank you): "@ Encouraging people to guard against future disabled children, finding that a girl of 16 years is spoiling the life of a child under the excuse of "it must take" -> The first thing is that there must be 16 years educated to be responsible in the sense not so much that "we must assume its mistakes (made you a kid? You are going to shit is good for you!") but rather, "you're not ready / willing to to a kid? Do what it takes to avoid! "As for disability, it should be more help. I express the wish just qu'onpuisse do otherwise. "All that is NOT based on" respect for human life "and" the equal dignity of all. "Question of definition. Personally, I find it difficult to consider the killing of a baby as respect for human life, and I'm struggling to treat the failure to find that the life of a disabled child it is better to nip it in the "eggs (quite literally) as a sign of the equal dignity of all. You can understand?" It may be difficult thee to accept, but he'll have to get used to them … "Why should I "make me" Yes, I know how society I live, I can do, thank you (and even without nightmares every night). That does not make me love in every aspect . Not to give up to move in a direction that seems best. As anyone or almost, I suppose. "Ted always @ (thank you for having responded yet, having said that I think it will stop there because we will transform the matter under discussion between us which is. Ted always @ (thank you for having responded yet, having said that I think it will stop there because we will turn the matter under discussion between us what n'estpas object): Some points: "If I amused myself by saying "in my case, the earth is flat", I'm not sure it would make it really flat. Well there is none. " No this is not the same. In one case we speak of the earth, objectively measurable physical concept with measures on which it is fairly easy to agree. In the other, we talk about the person, a legal concept (the subject of law) and philosophical, and hence the definition is much, much more debatable. Our philosophical choices lead us to have clearly incompatible designs. And the position of French law is not nearly as simple and "in your sense" that you seem to say. Do not think I am oblivious to the suffering he may have with a disabled child (just for closer, I had an uncle with Down syndrome). I also saw the joy and love that it could carry. I'm not saying this is easy, only that I do not see why they usurp the right to say if it. I'm not saying this is easy, only that I do not see why they usurp the right to say whether or not the blow çavaut as one would buy a thing. Because I think it is a human person as they speak, and that any drift eugenics is intrinsically dangerous. You say that "if the bodies are not finished this is not a person": it seems completely arbitrary and not founded more than say for example "before puberty (not the ability to reproduce, no maturity all organs again!) is not a person. " You doubt that I am not of that opinion. One last note. In terms of law, the 1975 Act is not a _légalisation_ but _dépénalisation_. A shade that has any importance.

I support you in your choice to be against abortion, however, I confess to being troubled in some cases. Such as rape, incest. Not that I find much of the abortion in these cases because it is an innocent who pay. I would simply say that it is God alone to judge these people and not us. Some people are weaker than others or less conscious or surroundings are less enlightened than thou because they can take a decision which does not weigh any weight. Personally I think there are so many couples who seek to have children, rather than an abortion would be best simply to give them the child, it would at least happy.

Hello Samira I'll tell you a story, that one of my former neighbors … She is married, both slowly approaching their thirties, they decide to have a child … she got pregnant, so good They are super happy …. ultrasound, and all the "armada tests during pregnancy etc. … hopefully … She gave birth to a baby boy born before a serious problem … (no trisomy but basically any thing that went awry during cell division … from what they told us, without going into too much detail), undetectable … that child survival estimated at 5 and 10 years … He is unable to care for himself, alongside cleanliness etc … Do not you think if they had known this would have been better for both you … she aborts imagine what raising a child they knew would not live beyond a maximum period of 10 years? During these 10 years, that child will experience a multitude of health problems, you honestly believe that it's fun for him. She is not, for example, which will impose on you the number of children you aurasdans your life right? there is such …

You have every right to be against abortion and say it without blushing. I would go further, it is intolerable that you are considering an abortion against your will, and if we try this, I will support you in your right to keep the child if you wish. But do not worry, in our country, nobody will force you to abort, then fine, breathe …:-)

@ Ted: I attend to the debate exciting, Firstly Sabrina has the right to be against abortion as you are for you. Personally I think it's inhuman, I honestly could not even watch kris's picture. Tell me Ted, you love life? you are happy to teach you, you cultivate and enjoy this life? I say this with all the respect I owe you, but imagine that your mom will have you deprived of that pleasure? Imagine that it's your we would have an abortion? You would probably not of this world in order to discuss with her on this issue. Abortion is a private life being, the embryo is a "potential benefit", although during the early phase of development are there does not yet have a soul, and it is not considered human [It depends for whom, because a lot of people more educated than you, do not share your ideas, but I'm not to say that are wrong and who is right, because everyone has it own vision] Being human potential because it is. May we are in the field of surgery and medicine, I tell thee a citerquelques Abu Al-Qacim (10th century): One of the greatest surgeons of all time. His treatises on surgery included clinical description of instruments he had invented (ophthalmology, gynecology), practice of cauterization. Translated into Europe in the 15th century. Ali Ibn Al-Abbas: While Hippocrates and his followers claim that the child emerges spontaneously from the womb of his mother, he discovers that the contraction of the uterus expels the fetus. He wrote treatises on abscess of the uterus and cervix of the uterus. He gave the world a medical book ever. There was Abu al-Qasim al-Zahravi (Albucasis) [father of modern surgery] Ibn Sina (Avicenna), Ibn Zuhr (Ibn Zuhr), Ali Ibn Rabban Al-Tabari Al-Razi (Rhazes) ………….. The list is long.

The moderating Islamophobic propaganda – which I see for my part, as a feminist fools, in the very sense of anti-Semitism has been rightly considered a "socialism of fools" – regrets that Muslims and Muslim s do 'express little to defend feminism, the republic, secularism, etc.. Sometimes, however, Muslim women speak on feminism – or trying to do. For those that take time to read what they can have to say that most interested in the eternal lament of the invisibility of their way, here are some stories of women wearing the veil and claim their feminism on the conditions under which they do, and the obstacles they face. L emancipation of Muslim women could not be better achieved by the Muslim themselves, will you side with those who are promoting the image, or against them? Will you, despite their veils, along with those who claim the free disposal of their. Pharisee @ Liberated You're right, it is misleading not to commune with the current xenophobic French companies in its stigma and amalgamedes immigrants through Islam and the staging of its media avatars more obviously alienating. With demand for critical thinking of Marx and not give any credibility to a government and a head of state, especially those we are currently experiencing with regard to their claims for a secular and feminist commitment is obviously a contradiction on my part rough, and you've seen. Mea culpa. Exclude veiled teenage school system, punishing women victims of oppression archaic as the port imposed a cover in public, that's obviously emancipatory measures to help them free themselves from the grip against their of bearded fundamentalists, but as I have very bad spirit, I am just being biased. @ Sick 'n Destroy I totally agree with you that no one can seriously say feminist claim a religion in itself without causing considerable contradictions. But the problem seems to me another priority in. But the problem seems primarily other eneffet. The context of stigma and racist repression does not seem at all conducive to the maturing of this kind of contradiction – like many others, too. Instead, the defense of free discussion, confrontation and therefore the free access to public space, and the possibility of conflicting arguments with veiled women – which also means they do not prohibit them under the pretext of their veils, voice, and that scans do not have anything they can say on behalf of it: what many feminists have done so far, alas -: the radical rejection of the blackmail Official therefore the so-called "secularism" – seem to present a minimum.

To answer the question! "Will you, despite their veils, along with those who claim the free disposal of their bodies and the right to abortion? Give you just a little attention to what they have to say? "Yes, always!

To answer you: "Will you, despite their veils, along with those who claim the free disposal of their bodies and the right to abortion? Give you just a little attention to what they have to say ? "Obviously. A woman is a woman, with or without a veil for me. So yes, a woman has the right to freely dispose of his body, and yes I listen when I speak. I listen even those I do sometimes think of evil. Simply because if I refused to listen, I will feel to become even more pitcher than I already am. By the way, I liked the two links.

Of course he must support them, they like others, for "the disposal of their bodies and the right to abortion." The veil is another subject that appeals to nostalgia for certain authoritarian policies. The veil is the Muslim religion that the skirt is to the Catholic religion. Should we assume that all women who wear skirts to submit to the constraints of old states who obeyed blindly patriarchal concepts of the Catholic Church, and therefore they are Catholic fundamentalists, who do not deserve to comment on feminist cause? it would be funny. and even if they did, they would have every right to comment on the feminist cause (and on any subject!). and yet it is the trial is being done towards the veil.

Personally, I make the distinction between Muslims and jihadists. If I chose my side in the psychological warfare that we are one sly, it does not stop me from treating others as I have always done in public. Because, as a democrat, I find it normal. And more reason, it would give a victory for jihad that unite all Muslims.

Admittedly, this is a realistic observation and "positive." But if we abandon this political fact for a moment that you husk with a sharpness too rare in political thinking, still does not he still a contradiction between women's emancipation and being eligible to remain in the religious affirmation of liberation? No monotheistic religion does not tolerate really feminist demands. It can be practiced without some contortions and feminist notional perfectly hypocritical. Or is that reinvents his religion on a personal level, which is in contradiction with "re-ligere. Every religion is pro-life and pro-herd. The individual is an idea, a word without reality in the mouth of a practitioner, and ideological freedom is not compatible with. Not that there is a religion more stupid than the others, just different states of acceptance by the progress of individual liberties in the West and elsewhere … So I would fully agree with your resume and less on Marx. So I would fully agree with your resume and less on Marx ladefense Muslim women supposedly feminist, and I am far from being aligned with Marxism in general …

I do not terrorism in the other direction, that addresses Islamophobic anyone who criticizes (in the sense argument against argument) Islam. As for those women, yes we are still at their side that's the criticism I address them: – Wearing the veil is placed anywhere in the Quran, the Muslims of France are mostly North Africans who have never worn the veil in France or in their countries of origin, veiling is therefore an expression of political Islam and committed. It raises the perennial problem of representation of Muslims. This group can speak in its name because it is not representative of Muslims or Islam … – They say the choice of abortion but point "is an acquired right, which is accurately recognized and codified in texts of Islamic reference. " What does that mean? they oppose the laws feminist / Republican who are not recognized by Islamic law? – they will be for the separation of men and. What does that mean? they oppose the laws feminist / Republican who are not recognized by Islamic law? – they will be for the separation of men and desfemmes in universities, swimming pools, hospitals, … current demands of the Muslims 'involved' – What is their position on Muslim countries that impose the veil on women, they can not ignore the reality of Islam that rightly cause an outcry here: the minority of veiled French are protected by the laws of the Republic but the majority of veiling in the Muslim world suffer. So once again I'm alongside all feminists without distinction, but there you arrive quickly at the edge of the thing …

oops … these stories are too long to read, but for me, browsing in the diagonal I realize there are a lot of Islamophobia in all this. By putting things in my view white woman's secular France from below, I admit be uncomfortable with women wearing the veil but he'll come to me any insult to the spirit of these women as in the cases described in these articles. Each his way of living, secular or religious! (Who am I to judge?) I am also sure that if I had the opportunity to speak with a veiled woman (from this and many other things, there's so much to share among women!) that this gene would disappear. Ignorance is certainly the cause of much misunderstanding. … In short I'm scared to see women's movements can also stigmatize violently veiled woman, while the latter they also fought-for freedom of women! "Will you, despite their veils, along with those. I'm scared to see women's movements can also stigmatize veiled woman violently, so that they are fighting themselves, also for the freedom of women! "Will you, despite their veils, along with the free cellesqui claim disposal of their bodies and the right to abortion? Give you just a little attention to what they have to say? "Yes, yes of course

I will always side with women and their rights! That is clear. But the veil is not and never will be a right to dispose of his body as abortion. Certainly not! Women do not have to be submitted! Women do not hide … NOTHING can justify it. However, wear a scarf over her hair and veil, this is not the same thing. But it can not be justified by religion.

very interesting, you let me take your links on R & S

>> "If Islamophobia is satisfied, therefore, ample room for a media storm stigmatizing the staging of repression, and a pseudo unanimity principle (of the extreme left to extreme right, all of agree to attack Islam, "the conceptual framework is biased, one wonders what is the rest of it? In fact, we can both ambient and Islamophobia invoqeer a claim of Marx" criticism of religion is the prerequisite to the review of the policy. "For example:>>" Will you, despite their veils, along with those who claim the free disposal of their bodies and the right to abortion? "The problem is not" to be with. "The claim of right to abortion is not" the right of free disposal of their bodies. "This includes the right to be veiled or not the right to challenge the patriarchal order of virginity imposed on women and not men, short of a moral sexual double. This included the right to be veiled or not, the right to challenge the patriarchal order of virginity imposed on women and not men, short of a moral sexual doublestandard. The right to contraception and Abortions should be supported wherever women deem necessary. We must also remember that this right is intensely political in that it is a right "of free inquiry" is not a right "requirement" but a "right-choice" in this sense offers q'uil women all that he denies the ongoing reform of Islam is confined to the limitation of the freedom of women (the Algerian family code, so-called obligation of the veil, etc. …)