non-believers are the first to say that we are in a free country, in a democracy, it must be tolerant but when someone thinks differently, it is backward con see. That's your freedom? your democracy? if you feel the right to have your opinions, your ideas, you have to accept that others think differently, you think always right, and others have always wrong, everything you accuse the believers you made yourself you're not actually better than us. Abortion is a crime for me, yes a crime in some countries you can abort up to five months of pregnancy is no longer an embryo but a fetus, a child, what is it disturbing? Ah yes, it shows you face the truth, truth that you are not assuming, yes abortion is horrible and many women never recover. Yes I am disgusted when I see young girls and even women who cry after being reckless with a man and do not assume. Yes I am disgusted when I see young girls and even women who cry after being reckless with a man and who do not lesconséquences! Bouuuuh I am a naughty little extreme you say, but I totally do not care This is not a stranger to the internet that can tell me who I am and I know of no faith who are against abortion and they have kept their child. SAMIRA @ habib there are other alternatives to this kind situation, even if the child is conceived out of marriage we have no right to decide whether a human being is entitled to live or not @ kiela you are the perfect example of stupidity. first I do not live in a city (old prejudice two balls) what is the second report with bar p ***? you can insult the Maghreb all you want, I'm Comoros. reconstructions related to the hymen? you better turn your finger seven times before writing this bunch of nonsense, you're all alone discredits my poor @ ted Give me an argument for abortion, abortion is killing a child realizes you leave? not compare it to racism, then think of what you want
This depends on the situation … If this child was conceived by an inappropriate relationship, it would be better to do the abortion if you can! He should think about his future and what we can guarantee him afterwards, but most do not undertake to repair a fault with another. In another case, which is supposed to be between married, I'm against it. And to you see.
I am not a believer, and I am not against abortion, I do not think it is a crime and we simply points of view, and it does neither you nor me of extremists. There is nothing wrong with that, and those who are in the wrong are rather those who criticize our views, which are indisputable.
There is no harm in being against abortion because it is a crime. Http://fr.answers.yahoo.com/question/index; _ylt = Ak0JVR3koInRqOiTldTW2Zg5Agx.; _ylv = 3? Qid = @ 20100411082001AAT87pW Inches down, how do you call it: http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html
You're not well: my poor and compassion you do not know. Because Muslims do not belong here in the clinic? And there in the corn is far worse. I do not wish you an abortion (I do not know either) but if a guy who knows your city does not take you in the cellar for a rotary – what will you do? And what do you think: Forced marriages of young girls with old perverts cousins? From the overwhelming number of girls in your religion that are in France again hymen? The Maghreb bar whores? "Let her who has never cast the first with errors stone "I do not regard you as a woman and it is not unknown for small miserable and poorly screwed internet that can tell me what is wrong. OKSANA
Democracy and freedom is not to have convictions intolérentes, middle ages and inconsistent. If you thought that, well you're wrong. If tomorrow I say "down all the blacks" or "cancer is good, it will be neither democracy nor freedom, but the stupidity. Humpty @ = Encourage people to guard against future disabled children, finding that a girl of 16 years is spoiling the life of a child under the excuse of "it must assume", claim that the embryo is a human whereas the facts show otherwise, expect rape give children …… all that is NOT based on "respect for human life" and "the equal dignity of all" . Humpty @ = "you have to tell young people" you're not ready / willing to do a kid? Do what it takes to avoid! " >>> Um, yes, we all agree with you, but once that is done? I do not know if you noticed, but we are talking about AFTER the design … not before. It would be good. It would be good quetu followed a bit … "What facts? ">> Well the fact that before the fetal stage, the embryo is not a natural person as the main organs did not appear. This fact. The same fact is accepted by the law and ethics, the same one that protects people like you … "In my case I found that the obvious objective fact the difference is the meeting egg / sperm ">> The problem is that" what concerns you "does not concern us, and do not look at these women who suffer. The embryo is not a separate being. Whether or not you think it will be the same thing, sorry. If I amused myself by saying "in my case, the earth is flat", I'm not sure it would make it really flat. Well there is none. "I hardly consider the fact to find that the life of a disabled child it is better to nip it in the" egg ">> Unfortunately, this proves that you are not very aware of the suffering disabilities engender. If your daughter had a child at 14, qu'elledevrait stop studying and go to work at the factory to bring it to life with a monthly minimum wages, certainly you rethought your capricious judgments. And to answer your reflection on the fact "kill a child," I reply before 3 months of pregnancy, it is not a child, not even a fetus, but an embryo. In no case is a murder, because the embryo is a quasi single cell, ie without consciousness or emotions. Before proclaiming this kind of "pseudo beliefs," we try to learn. It's quite a funny coincidence that those who are anti abortion are always those who know nothing … Finally, I quote: "You have the right to not like black people as you do not disturb keep the peace, so that's democracy. " Not my great, the fact of not liking black people is to judge a community and is punishable by law. It is by no democracy. Because that premium, you do not know thee + in democracy??? I do not you throw the stone, it. Because that premium, you do not know thee + in a democracy??? I do not you throw the stone, making c'esttoujours speak who know the + -… Samira @ = " doctors are against abortion. And then? If tomorrow is a president for the war? If a football star is conducive to racism? If a lawyer is for the death penalty? We should stop confusing "power" and "morality." Doctors are for abortion? Well I'm not surprised: there are people who lack ethics, and there are obscurantist everywhere … even among doctors. "I am opposed to women who do not have the stupid things they have done, it's easy to cry after! ". >> Samira, here it is not a playground. The arrival of a child in poor conditions, it is a little more serious than "must not come crying" or "they have to assume". Everyone makes mistakes, and everybody 's has no chance of being saved from hardship. When a child can avoid potential life miserable, and although we do. And it has far more important than "give a good. And it has far more importance than "give to women who come bonneleçon cry." Unfortunately for you, I know what I say. An embryo is not considered a human life and abortion is not murder, but the impediment of a vital development. It's like that, and it's not me who invented it. Let me guess: in this course, you were at the bottom of the class near the radiator, right? You can stay on your positions contemptuous and naive, but years ago that the world has changed allowing women and children of avoid lives of suffering. You do not accept it? Well it must. Samira @ = I reassure you, you do not work at all for the wicked, any more than for someone in pain experience and knowledge. "Embryo is not considered that human does not mean it is not ">> really? So we are still in the area of your "beliefs", which does not weigh heavily in the balance. "Majority of women who abort are idiots who have been careless with a man who cares a lot". The majority of women who abort are idiots who have been careless with a man who cares not mald'elles">> I'll repeat myself, but here it is not a playground. These women, you treat a silly (contemptuous that! Lol) do not deserve to suffer, and these potential children either. Lives have wasted much more important than your preconceptions about a "silly women" "imprudent" to whom we must "teach a lesson" You're talking about something more serious than your "they are idiots," they just cry "or" their guy does not care. "Samira @ =" t agree ''re too smart you know everything better than everybody you're happy? "Pardon? What is this story? You may think that is important in an exchange of "know everything better than everyone" or to have the last word? You're still here? "I thought that it was serious … So this is it? You lose face? Too bad … Know that I still do not pretend to know better than others. I only remind you that your ideas are in contradiction. I only remind you that your ideas are contradictionavec science and with ethics. Besides, the majority of responses to your question in this direction. Sincerely, Alongado @ = I read your comment, and I wondering what could push a People wanting to impose suffering on women and broken ruin the lives of hundreds of potential children. I found suspect your position, because when you love life, we do not like the wasted lives. And then I continued to read you … and I found dozens of lines of religious proselytism. I understand better.
Let me be very clear: I am pro-abortion's societal and anti-abortion in the personal domain, 1. My wife and I never practiced abortion, we are in this sense against abortion. Abortion is a crime for you, nobody can or has the right to impose on you the opposite … You will never be overwhelmed by abortion, it's your choice! 2. But from a legislative standpoint, I am strongly pro-abortion. Those who want abortion should be able to do so in conditions of hygiene and safety necessary. A paradox? No I am pro-choice, I am for freedom. Especially in this area where the crime is a subjective concept, the question is whether the embryo is a human being or not? I think not, but this does not prevent the embryo already love this … I like my cat who is not a human being …
We, the Judeo Christian tradition from the life begins at conception. They, among other Chinese, from Confucian life begin at birth. Who is right?
is your right and the other with these cities, but really what prejudices! rotating cities, hymen reconstruction: how old you really to make such amalgams inept!
In a simple context, abortion is a crime. But, you see, there are cases that should concern us such as: – Being pregnant after being raped! Keep this embryo, all your life, you go up the stage to the head. What about the child born, son of the rapist ….? Being pregnant and now the doctor finds that the seed that you wear will be an enormous health scandal and he would not survive after ten years. If an early pregnancy, you should stop to avoid the worst of the suffering of the child born before die .. ….. ……. etc. The examples are numerous and difficult. I understand those who are against this but we must also try to understand those who are for …. This is bad, are those who volunteer or those without medical or social …. These are the behaviors of those who offend because they bypass the property based and abuse at will, alas!
There are laws of creation (Acts of God) must always be respected. When humans can be contravened the laws of Nature, it will sooner or later experience the consequences of his actions (reciprocity effect)
Hello, everyone is entitled to his opinions. This will assume that the embryo is a piece of flesh, soulless, unconscious, and there is no harm in eliminating it. Maybe some they will consider it as a mistake, bad memories of a relationship arises? Maybe some people will kill convinced that the future will be bleak for him because they did not believe the comfort they need to grow? OF others, they may see as a hindrance to their studies or their freedoms? Or a family who does not wish to instruct a young child whose mother will not have the maturity or the money to good all? Personally, I am persuaded to say that the viability of the fetus plays an important role in our perception of "living". Thus, one can see women trying to go for abortion even in five months, but when one sees very premature to five months to live, with some effects, but also other normal development, I guess it may change our. Share opinions is good, but to declare a façonagressive is like imposing. Impose, in one way or another, is wrong. Thus, we have to see young girls broken by what they imposed on abortion. Not only for the good of the child who was to come, but for them, that they were immature, but also who should enjoy their youth! Personally, I've seen young girls proper care child, and I will add a first child at 16 or 30 years, is still unknown and doubt. In the end, I think I n'avorterai step, but this is my business and I have nothing to say to those who are for abortion, that is their choice, based on reflections of their own arguments. PS: You once told me that I was an unplanned pregnancy by mistake .. just that even if I am like everyone else, I can not imagine that one day well be alive, I was just a cluster of cells known.
Subject Salam very delicate and oh so complex, opinions differ, but do not think according to his own opinion to the dramas unfolding around the world .. The girl of ten years, a victim of incest, she should keep it if she is pregnant? And even at 14 or 13 or 15? Already the trauma, be still a child yourself and raise a child? No, need to think about that too, and then the other? Think about the weakness of human beings and that none is immune to a mistake, should keep them all? As if there were not enough small children living in large rejected home … And women who are tired, who have much and who can no longer follow? (In countries where they have not much to say .. Is the child to suffer the mistakes of these people …? Abortion is done from time immemorial, this is not a matter of acceptance of from others, but a social phenomenon as old as the world began, and which has already caused quite a premature death because. Estl'erreur Where? She should keep it? At the risk of his health and the rest? Is a right that should remain personal to the person concerned, the opinions of others does not involve the inside, as they say "the counselors are not paying"
If you are cons in your case, it is your business. By cons, if you are cons with regard to other women is that you want to decide what they are right or not do with their bodies in their place! And that decide for the others, is the basic principle of fascism! This is a woman's body in a free country, that's her, her and nobody else!
Hello Samira, J'agrée to your point of view. abortion is murder but will say that to those that it suits them and who are slaves to their passion. They are happy to be alive to cry "freedom" but they would be there if their mother had aborted? And when they have children they think for a moment that this child would he have been as abortion? Trivia: When even women, those advocates of abortion are pregnant and want the child to come, even for only one month of pregnancy must see their joy, they immediately run to ultrasound and take care of them for the baby to come. Is not it hypocritical for people who believe that the embryo is not a life? They care about their embryo already one month of pregnancy and encourage other to get rid of 3 months. A life is a life. She does not lose its value in becaufe not want! Must be responsible when having sex, the company wants accusatory towards these. She does not lose its value in becaufe not want! Must be responsible when having sex, the company wants to accusatory towards cesimmoralités there but the fact is that everyone knows what happens maintained when sex, Sex is not a game, you must be responsible and accept the consequences and recognize our hypocrisy and irresponsibility. There is no accident where everyone is aware of the risks . One drunken attack to justice by establishing their liability in accidents fatal road because they were well aware of the risks associated with driving while intoxicated. Similarly, when killing babies who have sex with awareness of the risks, it's all the same. Freedom for everyone, even for babies who can not see! "Nothing justifies murder, it is our society to find solutions to some sensitive cases. You will find that the crime attracts crime, it is time to consider breaking this vicious circle. Being against abortion does not preclude compassion for those who suffer in a devastating emotional state ….
One thing is to have an opinion, it is a sacred right, something else is to impose it on others. One thing is to have the right to choose, something else is having this forced choice. Have your own opinion does not mean that others must follow them.
I've always been against it but not imagine my galley now, with all the children I had with parishioners, and they also listen to my Preaching the idiots, and now I have lots of small children I ruined every Christmas, and it's not with the salary Benoit gives me that I'll get through. No abortion is wrong but would require a derogation from time to time.
In Islam, it is considered to be alive! Abortion is a crime that is exactly the same thing as killing a person 10 years or 50 years for us Muslims, there is no more serious than killing an innocent man! So whatever happens and any situation (relationship, viola, … etc.) is prohibited! it's just like killing a person! regardless of age (one month or 5 months)! @ Belle Zebute: what you say makes no sense! is a living being! he has the right to live right before her mother to the abortion or not! or because the person is to defend it becomes normal! he can not even defend the poor! is his choice to live before choosing her mother and I do not think a person who has not even begun this life will choose to die! is a crime and whoever did should be tried as a criminal
Yeah you got too Samira because I too am too agree with you it is too rebels both, you must too be the one you are you too and not even let you impress no strangers on the internet and if thee too want to say that Twilight is too good as you got the right too, it's not because you're a teenager you're necessarily totally immature.
I see no harm in being against abortion, in fact I am too. What I see is criticism: – Asserting that position by violence or even murder (some lighted in the United States U.S. in particular), weak and inconsistent position with the assertion of being pro-life. Fortunately they are a small minority factions, but they exist, so it must be pointed out, the more they discredit the cause they claim to defend very good. – In contrast to prohibit speech that those who believe it is a crime (and most atrocious, the victim is totally helpless) on behalf of freedom, which is equally incoherent. I co-sign all of the post repented. There are (even if they have to develop) alternatives. But we must help and support, not judge and condemn those who have done so under generally difficult. Denying the long-term psychological impact of abortion is dangerous for women (and their families) to deny the humanity of an embryo is. Denying the long-term psychological impact of abortion is dangerous for women (and their families); deny the humanity of an embryo esttrès arbitrary (and carries risks of landslide hazard on the fact of deciding who can live or not …) @ Ted, the position of most opponents of abortion is very consistent, whatever you say, since it is based on respect for human life and the equal dignity of all ( that which you defend rightly Hinder racism, but neglecting a way that I just found incoherent with those unborn). @ Ted since you still answer me (thank you): "@ Encouraging people to guard against future disabled children, finding that a girl of 16 years is spoiling the life of a child under the excuse of "it must take" -> The first thing is that there must be 16 years educated to be responsible in the sense not so much that "we must assume its mistakes (made you a kid? You are going to shit is good for you!") but rather, "you're not ready / willing to to a kid? Do what it takes to avoid! "As for disability, it should be more help. I express the wish just qu'onpuisse do otherwise. "All that is NOT based on" respect for human life "and" the equal dignity of all. "Question of definition. Personally, I find it difficult to consider the killing of a baby as respect for human life, and I'm struggling to treat the failure to find that the life of a disabled child it is better to nip it in the "eggs (quite literally) as a sign of the equal dignity of all. You can understand?" It may be difficult thee to accept, but he'll have to get used to them … "Why should I "make me" Yes, I know how society I live, I can do, thank you (and even without nightmares every night). That does not make me love in every aspect . Not to give up to move in a direction that seems best. As anyone or almost, I suppose. "Ted always @ (thank you for having responded yet, having said that I think it will stop there because we will transform the matter under discussion between us which is. Ted always @ (thank you for having responded yet, having said that I think it will stop there because we will turn the matter under discussion between us what n'estpas object): Some points: "If I amused myself by saying "in my case, the earth is flat", I'm not sure it would make it really flat. Well there is none. " No this is not the same. In one case we speak of the earth, objectively measurable physical concept with measures on which it is fairly easy to agree. In the other, we talk about the person, a legal concept (the subject of law) and philosophical, and hence the definition is much, much more debatable. Our philosophical choices lead us to have clearly incompatible designs. And the position of French law is not nearly as simple and "in your sense" that you seem to say. Do not think I am oblivious to the suffering he may have with a disabled child (just for closer, I had an uncle with Down syndrome). I also saw the joy and love that it could carry. I'm not saying this is easy, only that I do not see why they usurp the right to say if it. I'm not saying this is easy, only that I do not see why they usurp the right to say whether or not the blow çavaut as one would buy a thing. Because I think it is a human person as they speak, and that any drift eugenics is intrinsically dangerous. You say that "if the bodies are not finished this is not a person": it seems completely arbitrary and not founded more than say for example "before puberty (not the ability to reproduce, no maturity all organs again!) is not a person. " You doubt that I am not of that opinion. One last note. In terms of law, the 1975 Act is not a _légalisation_ but _dépénalisation_. A shade that has any importance.
I support you in your choice to be against abortion, however, I confess to being troubled in some cases. Such as rape, incest. Not that I find much of the abortion in these cases because it is an innocent who pay. I would simply say that it is God alone to judge these people and not us. Some people are weaker than others or less conscious or surroundings are less enlightened than thou because they can take a decision which does not weigh any weight. Personally I think there are so many couples who seek to have children, rather than an abortion would be best simply to give them the child, it would at least happy.
Hello Samira I'll tell you a story, that one of my former neighbors … She is married, both slowly approaching their thirties, they decide to have a child … she got pregnant, so good They are super happy …. ultrasound, and all the "armada tests during pregnancy etc. … hopefully … She gave birth to a baby boy born before a serious problem … (no trisomy but basically any thing that went awry during cell division … from what they told us, without going into too much detail), undetectable … that child survival estimated at 5 and 10 years … He is unable to care for himself, alongside cleanliness etc … Do not you think if they had known this would have been better for both you … she aborts imagine what raising a child they knew would not live beyond a maximum period of 10 years? During these 10 years, that child will experience a multitude of health problems, you honestly believe that it's fun for him. She is not, for example, which will impose on you the number of children you aurasdans your life right? there is such …
You have every right to be against abortion and say it without blushing. I would go further, it is intolerable that you are considering an abortion against your will, and if we try this, I will support you in your right to keep the child if you wish. But do not worry, in our country, nobody will force you to abort, then fine, breathe …:-)
@ Ted: I attend to the debate exciting, Firstly Sabrina has the right to be against abortion as you are for you. Personally I think it's inhuman, I honestly could not even watch kris's picture. Tell me Ted, you love life? you are happy to teach you, you cultivate and enjoy this life? I say this with all the respect I owe you, but imagine that your mom will have you deprived of that pleasure? Imagine that it's your we would have an abortion? You would probably not of this world in order to discuss with her on this issue. Abortion is a private life being, the embryo is a "potential benefit", although during the early phase of development are there does not yet have a soul, and it is not considered human [It depends for whom, because a lot of people more educated than you, do not share your ideas, but I'm not to say that are wrong and who is right, because everyone has it own vision] Being human potential because it is. May we are in the field of surgery and medicine, I tell thee a citerquelques Abu Al-Qacim (10th century): One of the greatest surgeons of all time. His treatises on surgery included clinical description of instruments he had invented (ophthalmology, gynecology), practice of cauterization. Translated into Europe in the 15th century. Ali Ibn Al-Abbas: While Hippocrates and his followers claim that the child emerges spontaneously from the womb of his mother, he discovers that the contraction of the uterus expels the fetus. He wrote treatises on abscess of the uterus and cervix of the uterus. He gave the world a medical book ever. There was Abu al-Qasim al-Zahravi (Albucasis) [father of modern surgery] Ibn Sina (Avicenna), Ibn Zuhr (Ibn Zuhr), Ali Ibn Rabban Al-Tabari Al-Razi (Rhazes) ………….. The list is long.