By the suction method and salt to burn the fetus, I could not be a practicing physician … I do not ask you whether you are for or against abortion, read the question! To all those who m'invectivent, I am sorry to have offended. My question was specific and does not require to decide for or against! I wanted to "facilitate" a topic that seems worthy of discussion. It seems to me that this is not by concealing the fact that face forward. Maybe if young people are aware of what abortion, it will be even more careful in their relationships and their antics. I say "young people", including de facto boys … Too easy to put everything on the back of the girl …

Yes, but not true, only in videos on youtube. Look closely, you can find. It's not pretty pretty nor very interesting. Me I came across it by chance while watching videos with babies … alive.

I saw it on a video like you tube "is not pretty. Sensitive soul refrain from watching videos like that because it marks forever.

I've never seen and I do not want to see! What is it to watch horrors? To believe that we do not see enough each day …

The medicine goes into barbarism. I had never heard of anything but the idea turns me stomach! And I do not answer the question "for or against abortion" …

And then? You think doctors do not see the worst? For instance, one man ripped, tumors or limbs torn off? Your question implies that you're still against abortion neither more nor less.

Have you seen the result of a car accident? Everyone does not have the "guts" to be a doctor or firefighter. That "amateurs" of such images would delight as they want there in abundance on You Tube and others. But pity they stop trying to impose them on us. Because frankly it's not shock people who advanced the shmilblick we know.

View video of mothers who kill their newborns should not it be nice-nice … Physicians see the horrors every day, abortion is one of them …

Abortion is a personal choice! and is legal in France! despite what the old and old is frustrated right! and you did nothing wrong over the guilt or even moms often in great distress which this painful act! and I'm not talking about taking Greluche abortion to contraception! but the majoritee who need this the way! then your criticism or sordid details keep them to yourself!

No, the better

Every Thursday, we get the curettage of the Week (4 hospitals) … the first time is hard but you know what you paid, what you should do so it's not really a problem, but it ' is like the rest, qd thee a breast or a jaw on your table or perform an autopsy is not always pretty …. it's just part of the job

but I have not lived a cons heart because the heart was stopped BB or cause birth because my daughter was dead it is a moral shock that physically I am doing some research on the internet here is the explanation of aspiration and burned by the salt: techniques used Curettage: A cutting instrument is inserted into the uterus to remove the child from the womb. This procedure cuts the child into pieces and tear of the uterus! Aspiration: This is the most common method for abortions to 10 weeks. The cervix is dilated, then using a vacuum ten times more powerful than a regular vacuum, the child is literally shredded, crushed and sucked. His body is more than a shapeless mass. The pieces are collected in a jar connected to the cannula. The injection of salt: This abortion method is undoubtedly the most barbaric of all. It is used after the 16th week when there is enough amniotic fluid around the. It is used after the 16th week when there is enough amniotic fluid around dubébé. It removes a certain amount of this fluid and replaced by an equivalent amount of highly concentrated saline solution. The baby swallows this fluid, which will then cause him many hours of extremely violent convulsions that will burn bright Under this method abortions injection of salt, the mother is under anesthesia because the embryo would this torture suffer too, and she resent very strongly the movement of her child dying. Within 24 hours, it will expel a dead baby whose skin is completely charred. ps I've had no choice by curettage cons salt I had never heard of and read what they do I find too barbaric!

Have you ever seen women die with knitting needles in your stomach or anything else that could cause bleeding and infection when they did not want it? It was our grandmothers and our mothers.

Hello, I am Algerian 7 months pregnant, I expect to leave France in the 8th month to give birth. it's for health reasons (I had 2 successive abortions, and I am under treatment since the beginning of my pregnancy) and I fear for my child I know that a birth in France is a bit expensive, but it's not my problem my question: how to declare the birth of the baby, or (consulatat, Town Hall) and it will take how long after giving birth (I have a tourist visa to 3 months)

The declaration is made at the Consulate

a woman must choose to have a child. However, it is unfortunate that some use abortion as a method of contraception.

I think it should not replace prevention, but when a woman does not want a child it is better to do an abortion that make him unhappy for a lifetime or even abused. It is a question that belongs to one question and you can have a visceral desire for a child not as strong as a desire in the same woman at different ages and conditions. The man is only the parents do not live a woman living in her body. The laws since Simone Veil in favor of abortion but in everyday life is becoming increasingly difficult with the constraints , spoke in the wheel of refusal on the part of some medical circles.

I'm for abortion, although the legal date of termination of pregnancy is totally subjective, varying by country. Overnight a fetus is considered a human being and you can not abort, and this deadline can vary from a few weeks depending on the country … it's still hard. I think the state should lead the financial means to enable women and couples to keep their children if they wish. There are 200,000 abortions per year in France, which is much, and demonstrates a real problem. Especially that abortion causes severe psychological problem for women who resort. It should also facilitate the adoption of French children, very difficult now is why many women say it is better to abort rather than leaving them to rot in an orphanage (which it says are not so awful France).

I think the greater good. As I regret that my mother did not abort

The "Great Initiates" … who were (or are) often natural psychics, great visionaries, but also leaders, spiritual guides, instructors, high level, scouts for Humanity … teach that "The human soul is embodied in the BODY, that the moment the child is born uttered his first cry." Considering their higher point of view, any form of life before the first cry the child would be purely organic or biological (fetus). With a little research, you can find information to corroborate this statement … among other things, the work of "Dr. Rudolf Steiner, this great scientific investigator of the invisible and supersensible worlds. Perhaps, other great teachers indicate, too (?) After this step, you may be able to judge what you join the better, your conscience.

Abortion is a right granted to a woman for abortion under the protection of the law. The woman is free to not want to assume that motherhood has not provided or that has been imposed. Clearly if it is not ready to be a mother, she has an interest in resorting to an interruption of pregnancy. I will say more, his spouse is not entitled to have his will. Why would anyone want to impose this woman not to abort? Besides, when she resolves to go under the pool, it does not for pleasure. She is traumatized. And bigots and bigoted, which in the name of religion preach evil word in the War Against abortions. In the name of god they are cornered they fight for a bad cause. Under the pretext that they are fighting the death of a baby (fetus rather) they claim to believe the death penalty. They are inconsistent with their ideas so they are not reliable. Ladies, abortion is a freedom you have hard-won, so enjoy.

Personally I do not condemn abortion, and I deeply regret that the church opposes it. I think in time she will have to take into account the views of Christians who are most favorable to the practice. But this does not mean that abortion is a way of fighting against overcrowding. So we must advantage of informing young people of how to preserve that exist today and that very early in the life of a girl.

ACT is more like an aberration of repentance for the Holocaust made by Chirac on behalf of the French people. and drift! freeze mothers of newborns are charged. There anonymous childbirth Where does the crime? In enacting the the human person is the ROBOT I am not against abortion but against the law on abortion and then ACT on the death penalty and also euthanasia!

For me it is not a decision taken lightly. It is a serious act that must have a real reason. But even if what it is made, provided that it is done so that the mother will not die too. Because if I'm against killing an unborn child on the principle, I am even more against letting girls hurt themselves with knitting needles. We do not measure the harm that could be improvised abortions to women ignorant nobody protected.

As vibratio "" "To me it is not a decision taken lightly. This is a serious act that must have a real reason. But even if what it is made, provided that it is done so that the mother will not die too. Because if I'm against killing an unborn child on the principle, I am even more against letting girls hurt themselves with knitting needles . It does not measure the harm that could be improvised abortions to women ignorant nobody protected. "" "abortion a very very painful! because beyond the spat, the woman who has aborted, no, do not tighten the same and when it's a girl … The silence is best …

Do not tell me that a sperm has no soul alive! @ Sylbao For you avoid answering a spermatozoon has no soul. @ You've reached is there to kill a chick in the egg? It is the same thing!

And therefore, an ejaculation is a genocide? In these conditions all humanity is guilty, but what exactly?

then I will join the paradise of bacteria and viruses, in this case.

Play on words if you please, the fact is that it is against the law to kill a human being. Now, we know when an embryo becomes a human being. The law provides an answer, we now have to judge their eligibility. An abortion is not an arbitrary act, but can we tolerate that women are not masters of their destiny through prohibition? There are still forty anyway abortions, take all this and provide a legal and health to the practice. This finding goes hand in hand with other social issues!

if so and even after the blow to vacuum it will mount directly to paradise ..

You better hypocritically prefer that your daughters birth under X, honor Judeo-Christian will be safe, let me laugh ,,,,, and tell you that I at least I fought for the right to abortion, soul is just an excuse of religion,

This is not a "murder" than to eliminate a pile of cell formation. This is not an arbitrary act, too, agree. But the embryo is still part of the body of the mother, who was free on him. It's very strange, I've never seen someone who was going to believe that sperm has a soul. And the egg too?

To each his freedom and his responsibility!

@ Odette, I know some Christians who support abortion as I know of lay hardcore, eaters of priests opposed to abortion because they consider excessive "When you know that some couples can not adopt and that some women or Sterile men have to be (e) s. As said Celine abortion is our kids and we take pity on our mutt! @ Odette, hehe, you disappoint me, you who often dragged into the category philosopher, with shortcuts to arrive amalgams as cheesy! You obviously have never read Céline your life! When you know that Celine even treated Hitler Jew!

ODETTE @:::: to each his own conscience you're no better than n those who think otherwise,,,, c is a good question you can fight for everything and no matter what it does not make you a person who holds the I ca tell truth without wickedness and I likes people who think about this kind of subject

The sperm has no soul because it has to be joined to an egg to produce a human. Only after fertilization we must consider that commits homicide by removing the created by it, and therefore that all abortion is one. Indeed, there is indeed a clear distinction between being resulting from the fertilization of an ovum and a sperm and each of these elements. However, we could not establish a real distinction between the different stages of development of a living being. Saying that abortion is not a crime because it affects only a cluster of cells, ie a being unconscious, may give ammunition to those who would kill someone for his sleep after all During this time, there is no more conscious than an embryo. This could therefore allow any abuse services to special interests at the expense of those who are not considered quite "aware". And is it not the glory of a civilization to defend the weak before the strong? As. And is it not the glory of a civilization to defend the weak before the strong? Quantal two other arguments very often to defend abortion, they leave just as easily refuted: that abortion is legal, because the embryo belongs to his mother, is confused inclusion relation and relationship membership, it does not mean that we belong to a house because it is inside of it! And pretend that women who have unwanted children are aborted as well for their sake and for that of their child, which could not be reared in good conditions is to invoke conditions that are extrinsic to the nature of the act that sought to declare: that logic, it is equally justify infanticide, when parents become unemployed, or even physical extermination of people without resources. And yet no one defends it, because we know that these situations can be treated with humanity, including the establishment of an adequate social protection system. So when we also know that many people want to adopt. So when we also know that many people want to adopt Lesenfants they did not have this latter justification of abortion also falls.

The sperm do not think so. The egg does not think so. The egg-cell does not think so. A fetus is not yet a person, he has no identity: he does not know his name, date of birth, place of birth, name of his mother, his mother's face, much less the name and face of his father. In addition, changes in the brain are in the last days before birth, so as is a fetus, no problem of conscience. Indeed, a fetus is not killed, as it is not fully alive (not alive in the scientific sense, but in the social and psychological sense). In comparison, it costs a little someone to unplug one in a coma, but someone who has no name, no identity, which has seen nothing, done nothing at all … The memories will never go back until 4-5 years that the age stated that they recalled before, we merely imagine. This proves that identity is formed later. Then, it can ruin their future, but it can also avoid ruining the future of the father, mother and child!

The question as to when the baby has a soul is frankly hypocritical. I have nothing against abortion, in a sense it is a tool of social control that allows women to maintain a modicum of control over part of their existence in which they sometimes lack … But with a minimum of lucidity we can very well imagine that the argument of "my body belongs to me" would have no recourse in a hypothetical ideal world where rape would not exist and where contraception would be trivial and systematic manner when required. The fact is that it just seems more logical to focus on a being alive and palpable as a small piece of flesh barely alive who has not been named yet … On a hypocrite consensus we accept this sacrifice for the order and benefit the greatest number, but out of pity that one ceases to look for ethical-metaphysical justification for this act, which then goes to explain that the ex-mothers-to-be that they have no reason to cry over their fate because they have failed to nothing but a piece of meat …

Yes abortion is a crime to be innocent without a cutter défonce.Sauf if there is a problem.

Legalization of abortion? Voting? Feminist movement and struggle for loss of wage inequality? Maternity leave? Pill?

Abortion Pill and even if these rights diminish today unfortunately …

Simone Veil and her right to contraception and abortion I think.

I would rather say that the legalization of divorce in Italy is much less since the gas cylinder exploding and women eloctrocutées

Voting rights for women (1944 a historic feminist movement and struggle for loss of wage inequality (as) maternity leave (bof we should not piss off too) Pill (no question to me after you refile AIDS) Condoms (what a great invention)

LOREAL action?

Right to vote and leave (s) of Motherhood which add the comforts of modern life, including home appliances because the pill, abortion and the so-called "feminist empowerment" that will allow the progression of obscurantism !

The invention of Gregory Pincus

My baby does not systematically rote after having suckled and sometimes she sleeps badly so I wonder if c not linked? how do you make them belch and c is that there is a difference with the gas? c is any noise that comes out the mouth is a burp or is that it can be gas? cad know s how it has belched? help me

A suckling child didn't need to routinely belched! You can give him a little massage of the abdomen, but many times they poop more than a burp! The fact sleeping poorly can have plenty of reason then the rot I think it ' is ca!

I did like this: Up, You take your little treasure in your arms and you plates cons you, her head on your shoulder (, cad that his chin is resting on your shoulder) You're petting him back by giving all … patting and rocking slightly. Sometimes it takes a bit of time but generally it is good and you can not miss it because his mouth is up to your ear. This way you give him a little hug you and talk to him until her rot. Sometimes it is good to put a towel over your shoulder …. possible referral. Gases, by definition, on the other side. When you give a bath to your Small wonder, you and the dry weight is slowly. The legs back belly while gently talking, babies, just as we love it. In addition, this creates an excellent report from the parent who did it and the baby. And when they are relaxed, they fart more easily ….

A breastfed baby does not swallow much air and therefore does not always need to burp. Essayes still systematically, putting yourself and cons, patting or gently rubbing her back. To sleep, it can be linked full of stuff: colic (attention to your diet), or others. And the gas is rather the other side. The rot is also a gas. Your baby is probably other noises by mouth (to warble, crying …) but difficult to confuse with a burp …

a breastfed baby does not always need to burp. but he may well be that your daughter needs ale and be embarrassed. my son although he was also breastfed, needed much belching, we even had to pause during feeding to make burp! is the main technique is taken against you and give him pats on the back, but really gently caress limit. for my son, what worked well was to change the layer after nursing! every time I noted it belched! the difference with the gas .. uh .. bin is the place for it or spell! nan seriously is often linked, my son had a lot of colic and gas. by rote cons when it is not always sound but you see he rote anyway.

I am 4 weeks pregnant I went to private clinic I would like to know how its going to happen and how its going to cost me I have a mutual

how you want that answer? is following your situation it may even be free if you pass by plannig famillial it have a center hospitals in major cities

More expensive than a condom or the pill ….

Europe has more than 1 200 000 abortions per year, which made abortion the primary cause of death on the continent … (200 000 in France). Abortion abuse is planned genocide of European white populations. The abortion lobby is subsidized by public money. Associations rescuing Women who refuse to sacrifice their baby will receive about them ANY government grant … ? Http://www.droitdenaitre.org/com-coll.html

You have not needed us to get pregnant, so you can also take and you learn by going alone to the clinic (or phoning them!).

We should have invested in your education, it would have cost much less.

poor little I open it is really bad down there is nothing for him and yet he was going to

normally it's free I think abortion is a right everyone does as he pleases we judge a person

private clinic is expensive I think in a public hospital ca back to 2000 euro I think about I'm not, it depends if you have a mutual or not

hospital 12 years ago, to complete the record I had given 250 francs. if it's happening very quickly, if all goes well (as is often the case), you get back to 7 am and thou spring day! you should see an obstetrician, who asks you a blood test, ultrasound, to be sure that you did not exceed the term by law (14ss pregnancy today), you'll see a psychiatrist, a social worker, and the anesthesiologist! papers and appointment, take more time than abortion, itself, then you set a date for your input and act. good luck, because it takes !

I know my poor ca I got an abortion 6 years ago it was hard very hard but I think normally pay

its going to go wrong and its gonna be expensive and will be justice. Ah its going better now.

well you do what you want if you want an abortion: abortion! I understand why you have been spoiled over short: its does not cost 2000th mdr What is this nonsense! Want the link of public service they are real information:

Hey, So first of all, know that no one has to judge you, even if it was previously done. I myself am currently pregnant and soon three months this question crossed my mind, even if the I took a final decision other than yours. In any case it's your choice and it is important not to forget that other than it happens very quickly, for my own case I used a condom but he the break and no one would have not realized … and yes I do not think bcp people systematically check a condom. In short, the error is human, and we must stop to think that it happens at others. Regarding your question, the surgical abortion in a private or public nonprofit costs between 300 and 450 euros in a for-profit institution that costs between 250 and 390 euros for medical abortion between 190 and 270 euros depending on the type of establishment for reimbursement is it at high for 70 to 80% and if you are a minor (I do not know:)) is. Regarding your question, abortion surgery in a private or public nonprofit costs between 300 and 450 euros in a for-profit institution that costs between 250 and 390 euros for medical abortion between 190 and 270 euros depending on the type of institution for repayment is it at high for 70 to 80% and if you are a minor (I do not know:)) c'estentierement refunded. Here I hope it answered your questions, I wish you good luck anyway and do not worry, for the comments I read on abortions, because I have traveled quite a forum, it went well. So if you're on your choice there is no reason why it goes wrong

Get information from the clinic. I am wholeheartedly with you despite the hostile responses from other users. too hasty to judge why a person whom we know nothing of his background? you think it's better to put her baby in a freezer?

Better to invest in education than in the latex.

I can not get answers they could give you … shame. Me at the time was free, in hospital with my mutual student. In any case, be quick, especially … If information of yourself with the schedule. Http://www.planning-familial.org/ In Lille was the CIRM, too. And strictly speaking, look directly with the clinic that you target. Good luck! : o)

I too am overwhelmed by the hostile responses I read! nobody to judge you. not looking after these people. the best advice is to Chaminou, I think, to know how much it'll cost you can probably apply directly to the clinic in question by giving the name of your mutual, but it must pass by Planned Parenthood because it is a compulsory interview for an abortion in France. Do not worry, abortion is a medical procedure is completely safe. good luck to you.

By the nature of some responses you have here a representative sample of the human co … laugh. Of course donors lessons have always taken precautions, kissing and were never exposed or (e) partner. These guys Fachos known discourse on the site to post links FN have always put a condom of course! … Unless they have ever kissed?? This might explain it! Louloutte Courage, I am writing here because I still want to vomit.

How to get angry in the morning! Not your question but the answers of some narrow-minded moralists who know nothing of you but you think. I do not know the answers but I doubt your anxiety before the intervention that you don 'have certainly decided to wantonly. Courage.

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bonjour voila it's been 11 months since I try to have a baby with my man for 1 week or it hurts my breasts right above my breasts as the nipple and around kan I touch I have slight pain in lower ireguliere stomach and ovaries, and especially since about 4 days I cry for nothing (which is not like me) I have my rules doi Sunday I do not ve to test advanced a delay because I'm so depensser money in the test cettte that time I have seen a possible delay Exhibit I own in early pregnancy to thank you for your opinion

yes you can. signs of early pregnancy INCLUDE tightening and soreness of breasts, increased fatigue, feeling sick … but you'll have the answer Sunday, if you're reguliere:)

I too am having my period sunday and I have difficulty in the uterus from 7 / 8 jous and sick. I expect Monday or Tuesday for a test because I do not trust their tests early. Good luck and tell us about …

Yes it is possible that you are pregnant and I wish you hope so. But we can be pregnant without any symptoms of pregnancy (if the delay of rules) and not to be accumulating all the symptoms … So actually, only time will tell and until then try to relax, to think of something else if possible …

Maybe you unconsciously crying because t was sick of waiting for you … it plays on my nerves ..

hi why can not you be pregnant and I hope I have lived the same situation but expects a week of pregnancy to make sure

I ff dan ke the same position you in May if you seen my mind don 'fai pa obsession g lived ca last month and signs symptoms seem trivial you think pa ny're sure there is nothing Jusk A week after dimanche.j espere ke you really are pregnant big kiss good luck

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I give as much detail on the symptoms (?) Of the 1st month … Report 1 week after the onset of menses. Some time later: Breast swelling (my husband has noticed one I wanted to see if I psychoticism! ) with visible veins (today). Breast pain (happened). Losses white (it looks like it stopped …). For the rest: some minor stomach pains and loss of appetite (but I say here may be psychololique ). Except … my rules are there! A few days before the expected date … Last details: we did not try to have a child (even if it would be good news!). I know to do a test and go see the gynecologist (ectopic pregnancy … I think too) … I just want to know what YOU think. Have you had similar stories? What was the outcome? For swollen breasts, I said that usually they do not grow, and there I had to take 1 bra size in 3 weeks … And veins above: here nor I had ever seen … No pill in the air.

Swollen and tender breasts, stomach pains, back pain ….. I always had such symptoms just before my period. Losses white …. it is not at all specific to pregnancy. If you have doubts, do a blood test (that is more sensitive than a urine test). A friend of mine had three children. She always had exactly the same symptoms whether to announce the arrival of these rules or pregnancy! I had a miscarriage in early January. I learned accidentally. I thought to be the 4th day of my cycle. I went to the emergency room for another problem and they gave me a pregnancy test. The rate of beta HCG was slightly higher: 44. 48 hours later it had dropped to 6. If I had not visited the emergency room, I never knew that I had miscarried.

has my avie you are not pregnant for Lavance your period there have two explanations you have a 1 cycles iregulier 2 it is possible that you were pregnant but no Loeuf etais so you'd do a miscarriage only explanation voila

Is it about the pill in the air? for mine brought me the same symptoms!

Perhaps it is just PMS. symptoms are identical to those here. So, no pregnancy. This is my personal opinion, but that of a gyneco the better

Ben there are risks … But keg woman is unique! The symptoms you describe are those of pregnancy, but it happened to take the breast without knowing how or why, to have larger losses, have stomach pain and reduced appetite … All these things are fairly related to the psychological state of the person. There are not very reliable. In any event, I hope that the test result will satisfy you! Good luck for the future

everything that I just advise you it's a pee test and I'm not sure you want to get pregnant but we know

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