She was only 17 and this is the kid my son who does not care. I am against the crime of abortion. How to convince her when her own mother was hunted?

There is not to convince, you're not the mother, it is not up to you. If it does not feel the urge to keep it and the ability to raise, it will abort and happily. Abortion is no more a crime to bring a child into the world with nothing to offer but misery and neglect.

there's no better as a response to the girl's choice to abort or not

I myself am a woman, but some of their demand shocks me. Demonstrates, when I hear women claimed the failure to breastfeed their child (for aesthetic reasons sometimes …). Breastfeeding is an example, I Do I speak of are people like this pseudo philosopher Badinter, giving lessons on the "so-called modern woman and I can not bear to hear.

Women who have everything and want more!

there is not that feminists who do not breastfeed. refusal of breastfeeding feminist = is a shortcut outlier (those who stick their children in nursery or a nanny because they do not feel the The soul of a housewife is a feminist, too?) than those who wish to breastfeed do so without treatment of cows that give those who want a bottle so without being called a parent unfit. that those wishing to stay at home so only those who prefer to work do so as not, the neighbor does not have to think like us, not because she does not like us it hurts .

They mostly claim their right to make that choice, because right now, for financial reasons, we encourage mothers to breastfeed (which was not the case ten years ago, in maternity wards, you are spinning samples powdered milk and then make you a customer of the brand). Breastfeeding is seen by feminists as an alienation of women, dictated by society. They can not easily be replaced, or return to work before a long time, which is not the case with the bottle. "For the sake of the baby" is an irrefutable argument, guilt for very young mothers, who without him would have chosen not to breastfeed.

Er there is no link between feminism and the fact not to breastfeed her child Have you a source?

@ Chtonk: Yeah girl power!! MDR … Everyone does what he wants and especially what he can …

And why is that some do not wish to breastfeed their child (for whatever reason) you shocked? Feminists (outside extremists) are fighting just for the woman has the right to choose. Women today have the choice and the right to freely enjoy as a healthy child is not in danger. I personally am a feminist and have always. I am a woman who chose to work and respects those who choose to care for their children as is their choice to them and not their surroundings. I breastfeed by choice (especially because the bottle 'm looked like a good chore to prepare in addition to being a sinkhole for money) but I do not deny the right of women to opt for formula milk if they so wish. The feminist extremists, they are just extremists. Moreover, there is a turnaround. Before, the bottle was valued by these women because it allowed to release the woman. The woman was no longer obliged to. The woman was no longer obliged derester at home to feed her baby, others could feed him. Today, there is a "way around breastfeeding. Sometimes it even tends to propaganda. In short, your question concerns me because in the end, you're not better than claiming the failure to breastfeed, you just have a different view of them .

Where did you hear a feminist claim the choice not to breastfeed for aesthetic reasons? you have a specific source to cite? The frivolous reasons for not having breasts that fall seems very far removed from feminist claims that relate to the concept of equality between men and women. In choosing to feed her child bottle or breast, it should not be an opportunity to pressure on mothers. Each can make a free and informed choice.

Ah, that's for you the definition of "feminist"? Therefore ask Mr or Mr Robert Cambridge, they will explain ..

thank you for shortcuts! pffff ….. I am a feminist and I did not breastfeed my children because I did not want to … But I know lots of feminists who breastfed because they felt like. .. Also, for your government know that if a woman refuses to breastfeed for aesthetic reasons, it is not, by definition, feminist (yes, feminists are fighting a lot against the dictates of beauty as Cosmopolitan and Another Hollywood). So tell me what claims you offend? they have the same rights and duties as men?? and therefore men have the same rights and duties than women? They finally live in a truly egalitarian world? (Oh yes because that's what makes feminism: it is an egalitarianism …) Me, feminists, I say THANK YOU Thank you for voting, thank you for the right to work and have a bank account without asking permission from my husband, thank you for the right to wear pants, thank you for.) Me, feminists, I say THANK YOU Thank you for voting, thank you for the right to work and have a bank account without asking permission from my husband, thank you for the right to wear a pants, thank you for Ledroit contraception, thank you for the right to abortion, thank you for the right to dispose of my body (instead of 15 pregnancies suffer in 20 years of marriage), thank you for the right to education, etc.. etc.. What you mentioned this is NOT a feminist demand! The feminist claim is to have the choice! to be something other than JUST A MOTHER. PS: Please inquire before writing outrageous, huh: o

Should know, or you intend to tap ALL feminists because to you, all feminists refuse to breastfeed for aesthetic reasons, or you intend to tap Badinter Should not be lumped ago feminists in the leche league (just as there are many thousands in there), there are feminist groups that mount for the recovery of the birth by women (see Raging), feminists who 's on direct assistance to return to work and fight for more open cribs, feminists who are moving on information to contraception, feminists who are pro natural motherhood, feminists who are childfree and sterilize to 25 years, feminists who have a penis and therefore contrefoutent that breastfeeding can make on their breasts (obviously eh, these gentlemen are not breastfeeding), feminists fighting for we do not in themselves entuber at the time of retirement, feminists who want a level of maternity leaveEuropean level (to get to 28 weeks), feminists who particper the existence of paternity leave, etc … You want me to say, feminism you have no idea what it is , you've vaguely heard someone say that Badinter said that breastfeeding was not well, vaguely heard of men getting fucked badly, and that's a little information you Perso, feminists, I told them thank you's girlfriends, we will eventually do to get this damn equality, even if it only happens for our grandchildren

I do not like extreme concepts. I defend what I think is fair. After I did that very little of the feminist debates that quickly become aggressive and somewhat absurd. I think he must live his life according to what seems to be good for us in our role as wife and or mother. After there for women with a strong character who manage to carry the fighting without speeches, such as a woman should … A mother is … they are more remarkable I think. I prefer people who act much. Everyone sees the life he decided to lead, even if it appears ancestral to some or too modern for others.

ben person forces you pot me Me, I'm working hard, I have the right to equal pay a guy, he has two balls, I have two ovaries qd but nothing the rest j'dirais j'me ds fed back to us 15 years, you'll have divorced and that you'll have four brats dependent oh I forgot, this j'fais qu'je and I want to force anyone

Here's the story: Vanessa is a devout parishioner of a church in the town of the capital Abidjanaise. His parents are also highly respected and are known as models in their church. Moreover, the activities of Vanessa prove his devotion, and they are always at the church for prayer vigils, masses, and other charismatic groups . His involvement in his church led him to attend very often Abbe A. …….., it must admire. As time passes, the young Vanessa rounded. Also seeing her mother suspected her daughter change. This latter discovery admits pregnancy to her mother but refused to say who the father is. The mother feared for the reputation of the family tells her it is not possible to keep the child because of gossip also, the decision is made to abort. The father is not aware. Abortion goes wrong and Vanessa died a few days later. The hospital revealed the cause of death, the father is overwhelmed, the mother is. The hospital revealed the cause of death, the father is overwhelmed, the mother esthonteuse but said no more. Tongues are loosened and the best friend Vanessa, strongly affected by the untimely death of his confidante, confessed everything. Thus, Abbe A. ….. is the author of the pregnancy, he had asked Vanessa to abort because this situation would be difficult in the future power them, he would have even offered money for the task. The following are afraid and hesitant about the act allowed the pregnancy to proceed to the damned great abbot until his own mother grows. Brief summary of the story. Who among them all really fear God? Does religion is fear fear God? Does religion by its social conformist does not create it not hypocritical to finish towards God? Complete with further questions .. .

Whoever wants to play the angel plays the beast. Your story is nothing unusual about that, everyone is guilty, they all agreed to take the life of an innocent unborn child. They all pay the consequences of their choice. Abortion is a crime, it kills a human being. All existing justifications do not change the reality at the end a man is killed in training. One of the 10 commandments states: Thou shalt not kill. A nation which kills its children do not deserve to live.

The question is that Christians can say without let the Spirit be the master of us. And the only fear of God is that which is worth to avoid the deadly hurt by attitudes. He is not afraid of being punished, or to say that some "deserve" to be punished, but feared to add tears and bruises, to him who loves us from eternity. But God sent us all the Holy Spirit to discern what is the will of God in all this will not do this rather than that, but to discern what is consistent with the unconditional love of God, that carries life in Christ, and what is bringer of death. Obviously, all the actors in this drama did not seek the advice of the Holy Spirit to verify the correctness of their behavior. Jesus the has said, without me you can do nothing, heard nothing in that conforms to the will of love. For this reason the Holy Spirit was given, but must still be freely call him. For this reason the Holy Spirit was given, but it is still necessary to use freely luidans the silence of a heart to heart, to let him tell us what is the right path for our actions daily. The tempter uses our weaknesses to make us fall and we do follow false paths because it does not want to leave loving souls and teach by the Spirit. Each day of our lives, we have to put under the anointing of the Spirit, which makes us the truth. But it requires from us a sincere "yes" and every day to achieve loving others as God loves. May this dramatic story serve as a lesson to those who hear about it. Whether we do remember that we can avoid sin by the grace of the Spirit is continually reapply to stand firm in faith and the world to be a visible sign of God's presence, by the way we adjusted to be in relationship with others.

A man and a woman who feared God would not really sleep together without being married first. Let them sleep together and the woman is pregnant, people who fear God would never have considered abortion "We all make mistakes and God can forgive, but do not try to right a wrong by committing another even more serious! We must assume his actions and now follow the divine will and make amends! These people have been especially fear of 'what people will say we "so they have the fear of man and not God and it has claimed the lives of the young girl … and her baby! Fearing a religion, not fear God!

the fear of God is the fear of offending, like, when you love someone, it is feared to do him harm, rather it is his property. in the vocabulary, it confuses fear and fear (fear of punishment for example), but there are several phases: servile fear, is fear of punishment, and the first manifestation of fear when love is still in infantile (small children act for failing to punishment). servile fear, because the subject is bound by fear of punishment. then there is fear in the true love that makes the subject free to do good deeds, and that loyalty is an attitude that we loves. fear breeds caution and strength: caution, try to stay in the love of God, without displeasing her strength to act accordingly and not succumb to evil impulses. Now, the story you cite : there are several levels: personal and social. Personal: and there, God alone knows the heart of man, and everyone's responsibility, it would be futile. Personal: and then, God alone knows the heart of man, and everyone's responsibility, it would be futile to try to share the blame, as many people are involved, each with a share of responsibility at a time or another. people have thought to do well in acting as they did, nobody was in their thoughts at any given time, but God himself, and, God loves us so much, that it leaves us free to the end, to do or not do, to act or not (the relationship between two people is sacred, but the flesh is weak, and it may be difficult to stop), to speak or not … second, those who have acted (by leaving a relationship moving in the hiding, trying to protect this or that, advising …) know in their minds what they did and what they have to do accordingly … socially, it's a different story, there is justice, because unfortunately, the story is tragic: there, it does not have to do with religion, even if people have acted compared to what they believe. and justice will judge according to country codes, and investigation. above all, pray for Vanesssa is. Above all, pray that Vanesssa estmorte for her baby who has not been created for his family and the priest, the doctor who performed the crime (cons child )…. do not judge saying he should have, it should have … it does not advance, but pray and support those who have been affected by this tragedy. God is a God of love ^.

In this sad story, nothing "thinking" or "close to god" a coward, not understanding parents, a daughter and subjected to social pressure that pushes everyone to do what is expected of him without thinking. It seems that all the characters in this story worry god they fear so much that they persist in their stupidity rather than acknowledge their mistakes and live with. This is precisely the problem created by the old religions with their burden of unspoken and all the moral unhealthy results. To be human, one must know the rules (as do all religions), but it is also and above all be free to apply them, and overcome them if conscience and the reason we grow. If God is truly "our father", so if we want to be an adult must have understood the values that gave us, and apply them in our own way, according to our reason and the times in which we live. The main problem in history. The main problem in the history quetu tell, this is not the abortion (which I can understand, and I'm not against), but the forced celibacy of priests. If he could marry her, there would be no problem, is not it? But that's just my opinion!