Since 1975 to date abortion has killed millions of tiny babies (+ the great genocide of the History of France). According to projections minima (those who assume that children died from abortion does have never had children themselves), there are currently about 8 million French Additional 5 million working age. Why this remark? 1 / Because 3 million workers, the number needed to sustainability of our pension system without changing the retirement age to 60 years, neither the contributions nor pensions. 2 / Because 2 million workers, the number needed to France to stabilize the balance of the budget Social Security without raising premiums, without declining reimbursements. With 5 million workers and more, we could both sustain our pensions and save Safely without effort or financial work. There, not only are we trying to die economically, but in addition we made the blackmail of immigration. The pro-abortion have. The pro-abortion ontcontribué to break France economically and to collaborate in the substitution of its original people, then two things – either you assume to have an abortion or supported abortion rights and you wear your mouth today ' Today on pensions and Safely. – either you complain reforms of pensions and social security system and then you emprennez to yourself today and you reject the right to abortion. In life we can not require butter, butter dough and fuck the dairy. uncultivated strip, it would not have 5 million more unemployed because there would have been 8 million consumers in most countries and therefore offer more employment and growth. Unemployment evolves proportional and non-additive.

You mean 5 million unemployed and more!

but these 5 miilion beings unborn, how many unwanted and sustained by their mothers, would have finished abused, raped, beaten, abandoned, killed? How have finished on the street? I'm for abortion, but I find that currently it is used too liberally … more control was needed, especially for minors. and do not forget that we are generally 2 to cause a pregnancy … it is unfortunate to always carry the guilt of an abortion on the woman alone, who often finds himself forced ….

quite daccord with einn @

In your calculations projecting what would be if abortion was illegal you do not count: – Consultations psy children born of unwanted pregnancies and rejected by their mother – care for sepsis, haemorrhage, infertility, resulting from clandestine abortions, which have and will always exist in countries where abortion is illegal.

No, there would be 5 million more poor, who should pay Social Security sessions at the shrink, the best, or worse. Your knowledge of economics have remained at level math-CE2, unfortunately it's all a bit more complicated than addition and subtraction.

YES but 8 million consumers in more consolidated that Chinese products, it would not create more jobs in France so far. And if "3 million workers and more" sufficient to perreniser our pension system, well, it is great, that's about the number of unemployed that a. Finally, totally for the right to abortion because women have the right to have their belly as they wish and that n is not a "light" to decide who should have children to pay him his retirement.

For your information the number of births has nothing to do with the deficit of the s / s but the number of jobs created since the budget of S / S is powered by the employee and employer contributions. Use other argument to fight abortions that the law allowed WEIL and fortunately a lot of women having abortions in France and not in poor conditions and often fatal. The religion of which we feel that it is present in your claim has nothing to mingle at this issue for the happiness of women who often personal issues are forced to have abortions with a heavy heart. To complete your poor arguments are related to your prose by treating other uncultivated because of that they are not of your opinion, which shows your true colors.

1 – abortion is practiced in France three months before … so this is a fetus not a baby 2 – This simplistic reasoning that mixes religious and economic precepts is simply unfounded, because what is lacking in France is not his lack of skill ' work (see unemployment) but the relocation of industry …

still an asshole ass-beni would change quickly to notice if the men were also obliged to assume the responsibility that Dad is not good knock very serious but he is out of question to keep this thing in our impure Service

I told myself that there were not many people at my job, I understand better now, thank you for the info.

Accounting mess! Germans are 20 million more than us, and everyone knows they have 20 million unemployed and under no problems with safety or retirement! Also, if you force women to keep a a baby she does not want, you have good chance it will not make any other (except of course if you want more obstructing contraception). So, a woman who was aborted due to an unwanted pregnancy , may then want to have 2 or 3 kids when she feels ready. One thing it did not do with your system. Conclusion: if it is without the law on abortion, it might have had less birth o)

If a law was voted in favor of abortion is that there was need. An unwanted pregnancy can make a woman unhappy and the unborn child throughout their lives. Although we all tend to do, it is to judge that?

as nonsense. at least know that the number of abortions among women before 1975 was also important that abortion today? you at least know that tens of thousands of young women were found either in the cemetery is unable to have children following operations abortionist poorly executed? abortion is one of the greatest conquest of women that even intelligent men must defend. this election may actually hurt the religious consciences of some "orthodox ideological" While the various commands our religions forbid it, but we leave all our religions individual choice as opposed to Asian cultures where the individual does not exist. but before the slaughter of young women before 1975, due to pass this law under the passage giscard and not as mittran evoke some ignorant was a social imperative and a right to assist a person in danger.. The only downside CONCERNED HOWEVER the fact that despite all the means contracption girls can still get pregnant so many. Sex education from the college should probably be made by doctors and sexologists why not.

I watch my step mother when she is breastfeeding my half brother and I saw his body through the keyhole of the bathroom, she made a good ** t * I swear. the bed of their room is in the right of the door is for ca I see nothing. and I heard nothing as if nothing happens between them! is what they make love? the morning and why they act as if nothing happened?

… and if you let them alone? basically, it's not your history! … and I do not think you'd be happy if you were spied on while you frolic ….!

They use condoms to preserving the hydraulic shock absorbers of your indiscretions is little voyeur!

're still in your pee-poo phase? and then it does not concern you, brat … you've not heard of privacy?

Because their room is soundproof … well since they had a child, something happened between father and stepmother, but if the birth is recent, it is possible that their antics are momentarily in standby. Reassure yourself, gnash the bed again.

You do not patent your colleges to revise?

hello little voyeur lovemaking Dad does not concern you and also they have the delicacy to wait until you are asleep you should be ashamed you have at least 10 or 12 years doing your homework is more exciting c

First, many home have soundproof rooms. Secondly, the sex life of your father does not quite look at you and treat your step-mother of a bitch does not prove that your immaturity and your lack of respect that choice. Third aged one bit and one day you too will want one that you left in peace with your sex life!

Hello, I want to ask you … My son soon to be two months, I breastfeed and take the weight normally starts has always wanting something to eat …. That is to say, that after each feeding, he wants a bottle of water in the mouth …. He then heads barely sleep … I was told that because he is not satisfied …. : (. Is it already happened to one of you? Is this normal or actually, my milk is not enough?? Thank you all for your answers!

if head pain, it should not be hungry … Perhaps he needs the suction to get to sleep? Has a pacifier?

do not mix things

no, I do not think, because when you abort you do not kill a child it was my state of embryos

Not since a fetus is not a child but a fetus. So it's a foetucicide. Making the comparison is usually a way to condemn abortion, passing reasoning or justification. Abortion is not infanticide but it is good to kill by cons a living being (alive but not independent). To deny this fact, it is usually a way to defend abortion by passing reasoning or justification.

Shalom, Salaam, Hi! Thierry Absolutely, absolutely! Abortion is infanticide … Legal. myrtle An authorized by the authorities in many countries. A bloody war and reimbursed by Social Security. Who determined the moment when a child is no longer a fetus? The real suffering is not the Birth of a child unwanted, but – the negative attitudes of others – the virtual absence of advisory structures, accommodation and assistance. Abortion kills more than cancer! Abortion is a cancer.

To answer this question we need to define abstract notions of murder and therefore what is alive or not. Firstly, I think life after death is defined as well said the sentence "The existence constructed above and the essence "and in this context, since we have not seen the child, not a murder and not infanticide. Obviously some people find this view completely stupid … and they will be partially right.

The hypocrisy of the ANTI-ABORTION It screams AC becomes even wicked and violent with women seeking abortions and leave CREVE worldwide millions of children.

Without a doubt, just look, if Elizabeth, a relative of the Mother of Jesus was aborted when the child was already living in the womb of his mother (who was John the Baptist) would be unthinkable. 44 For Luke Ch.1 here as soon as the voice of your greeting reached my ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy. 45 Blessed is she who believed, because the things which were told her from the Lord shall be a performance.

To consider a fetus as a living being is regarded as cancerous cells as living. These are just clumps of cells that do not correspond at all to the notion of living creatures. Or even a sperm is a living creature and I cannibalism.

@ Fallen priestess: Really? so I am a cancer cell

not really, but it is indeed the termination of court life in development …

No, the word infanticide is improper. At this rate it, will also prohibit masturbation is a potential human being, and IUD causes an abortion every month.

yes, because it is scientifically speaking at fertilization a new human being is formed with its genetic material (DNA) specific. From that moment until his death, the same human being that lives, grows (if given enough time), aging and eventually die. Abort is to kill. @ Topaz: the coil is actually an abortifacient mechanism which prevents implantation of the fertilized ovum. In masturbation cons cells are cells of the father and not those of another living being. @ Josiane, the young child who is born is not much more autonomous than the child in the womb mother.

Your question may raise the passions … I give you my answer quietly: No.

for those who use contraceptive means YES for victims of rape or other special case is NOT like the IUD, you can also say that abortion is because unlike other means contraception, it leaves the sperm fertilize the egg and then mechanically detached from the uterine wall …. it could be an embryo

That is, short summary for those who do not know me. Poussinette I have a 2 year and another – 2 months in my womb, 0) For the first, it was NOT! and not worth trying to make me change my mind! I breastfed exclusively bottle. I lived through that bottle feeding as a real development, I absolutely do not regret my decision and I applaud this choice today. To me a bottle feeding is as intense in exchange mommy / baby. Having said that already the chip, I would have liked at the time, power from time to time, offer her a mother suckled for p'tit more, give some additional anti body for example … and then also try simply. With the drugs against mounted milk, I did not, I think the dangerous thing, rightly I think, finally I think … For Baby 2, I always preferred the bottle. Sorry for the fervent breastfeeding; 0) Everything that I already rejected the first time for breastfeeding. Sorry for the fervent breastfeeding; 0) Everything that I already rejected the first time for an exclusive allaitementmaternelle, always pushing me and I will not. However, without trial would be nice, I wonder if by bazar there can be a mixed feeding bottle with 80% and 20% maternal example (certainly still a majority of bottle up to 2 / 3 for this one) … and those from the beginning. I often read that a mixed feeding, it is already a period of several weeks of exclusive breastfeeding. What I do not want. What I want is it possible to implement? If yes, how and what may be the risks and consequences of this method, what could not walk in it? Thanks to those who take the time to meet in order to assist in this process and not in order to attack me and decide what need not be. Bizzzz @ selena: the scope of the breast pump, actually, I thought … As I did not know breastfeeding too, I did not know exactly if I could help with this lactation. As I did not know much about breastfeeding mother, I did not know exactly if I could help with lactation cettemethode … Thanks, 0) @ Siam: thank you my beautiful … To welcome the feeding, is sure that I would not miss it. You're right, I think there will also be a decisive factor in the right fontionnement or not: the smart future! , 0) In any case, your words encouraged me anyway! Thank you, 0) @ lolo: MDR! j'tadore, 0) Go all in heart: bebe1, baby 2 baby 3 bebe1, baby 2 baby 3 bebe1, baby 2 baby 3 bebe1, baby 2 baby 3 bebe1, baby 2 baby 3 bebe1, baby 2 , 3 bebe1 baby, baby 2 baby 3 gna gna gna! Kisses casserole!

Bib 80% and 20% breast, seems to me not a good equation, because at the beginning to produce milk must stimulate a maximum, and therefore have the more often the baby in, otherwise the milk will not rise. .. I think if you had only once in a day, it will not work, especially the first day and first week! In general, the opposite is advised to mixed feeding women who want to breastfeed, but not enough milk and supplementing with the bottle. Good luck for the future

you do what you want with your tits but please STOP with your Baby 1 Baby 2 Baby 3 it annoys me to a point !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The more the baby sucks the breast and milk product. If the baby is not feeding enough already it will not do (it's very hard for them) and prefer the bib that runs alone, and the breasts are not stimulated enough. For that it works even when there is a period of exclusive breastfeeding for 1 month.

Well, I'm no expert, eh, but I breastfed and gave the bib, and a lot of trouble breastfeeding … I'd say, why not, after all, if you stimulations little, you will produce little milk … It can work … BUT, I believe it or break it: If we say exclusive breastfeeding early is because of the risk of nipple confusion. Some babies do others do not. Some babies prefer the bib in because it's easier (need to suck down). Others, conversely, reject the bottle and prefer the breast. Still others will mix the two without problem … Ultimately, this is not you who chose your daughter … but I think to get there, it will still breastfeed exclusively the first three days to trigger the rise of milk. Once the milk has replaced colostrum, you mix as you want, or at least you try … At least put one in right out (the "feeding welcome"). It enables you to test your feelings, to see if your daughter is. It enables you to test your feelings, to see if your daughter sedébrouille well to take the breast or not, you can always notify thereafter. PS: You did well not to your first in with the drugs is totally incompatible!

You could try the pump. It will stimulate your milk without exclusive breastfeeding early and you can give milk bottle recovered as it is no problem in making baby used to the ease of the bottle and you can even your frozen milk bottles later.

Hey my Mimi! I wanted to do with my mixed jujus, but does not stimulate enough milk production my coup ben I did not have much milk, then I am passing the bottle altogether. But right after c That is not say that it's going to like you. If necessary to stimulate her breasts with a breast pump. Gros bisous! @ Bell: Hey oh here it calms my poor girl! There currently is rather you who m 'annoying to the point !!!!!!!! You have nothing to come on this topic to come and read our questions and / or our answers if you're not happy if they bother you. "Infant 1 , Baby 2 Baby 3 Baby 4 Little jujus … … Date of ovulation, conception, DPA, … "All in the heart!" We can start over!

This is the baby's sucking causes the increases of milk. Under the baby head and you have less milk. And in early lactation is difficult to establish precisely because the baby's head does not always effective, it lacks the jaw muscles that can suckle well and so it takes time, often several weeks before everything is in place and well formatted. I do not know the reasons that you do not want to breastfeed and at the same time, I will not go into this debate. For me, the list of benefits is so long that I do not see otherwise. But I sincerely hope you get there and that you will take great pleasure in breastfeeding even part time. The bottle is easier for the baby to drink a bottle while to suck in, it must do more effort is more tiring. Babies are not crazy, they look easy. And then, when we speak of confusion Breast / nipple, mostly because the baby will love drinking a bottle when he realizes that it's faster. And then, when we speak of confusion Breast / nipple, mostly because the baby will love drinking a bottle when he realizes it's more rapideet easier to drink bottle. Conversely, and it happened to many of us here, you are breastfeeding your baby and one day, you should give him a bottle of your milk, because you will not be there and the baby refuses to have this mass of silicone in the mouth and spits, then impossible to make a bottle. Ladymiaou had some problems with it and I when we travel, unable to breastfeed throughout the journey, I had my daughter used to drink a bottle of my milk during our trips and the beginning is far from 'be easy. I do not think however that you should abandon your plan. Infants and adapt our bodies too, but you have obstacles to overcome, for sure. Among other things, your baby may prefer your milk because it tastes better and will refuse the bottle and any obstacles, do not can not predict them as babies are unpredictable. I'll read the other answers you have been given. You should also look at the site of the Leache League, it must surely be some items. You should also look at the site of the Leache League, it must surely be the talk of articlesqui mixed feeding and how much it is possible. Armel @ Miss: I had forgotten the risk of cracks and the breasts swell . Mimiga Indeed, in these moments, especially when you got the full breasts, you almost beg your baby to head. Not that it hurts, but the sensation is odd. But it hurts when waterlogging, and I think from what I read. Mimiga @: Can you tell what pushes you to breastfeed? Maybe what you reject is not justified. Sometimes the assumptions die hard, but if it is, you make films on certain points which can be clarified. If we could help you exceed that, it would be nice. I feel so much pleasure to breastfeed I am almost sad when I think one day it will stop. This is to tell as fusional relationship that is intense and magical.

You know I'm breastfeeding and long that I defend breastfeeding, but I'll try to give you an objective response. I hope not to be clumsy and that my words will not be misinterpreted. Know that I do not judge you and I do not t'agresse. I believe everyone should be free to do what he wants, receiving all the help he needs. That being said … In fact, the drug cuts breast are completely incompatible with the breast. For rest: * If you do not stimulate enough, the rise of milk will not happen or your production will dry up very quickly. * Suppose you had milk, your tits will be like watermelons ready to explode. If you do not regularly empty, you will have very bad, you'll make a bottleneck that could degenerate into mastitis, abscesses, etc … * Risk of nipple confusion: baby may shun the breast, which would not too serious in your case. For cons, the suction is not the same inside and the nipple and that's more annoying because you. For cons, the suction is not the same inside and the nipple and that's more annoying because turisques fine cracks because baby may suck anyhow … And that is very painful too. * If a baby has not a mature enough digestive system to properly digest milk 2 types so different. He may have bad stomach pains. * Taking breast milk, it will benefit from your antibodies for certain diseases, but for everything concerning the digestive system (maturation of the flora, protection against gastroenteritis, etc. … ), artificial milk cancels all effects of breast milk for several weeks. Far be it from me to discourage you from breastfeeding, but this way, it seems very difficult … However, in nursing, there is never impossible. You can always try, time will tell. But when I see how the 1st weeks of breastfeeding can be difficult, I think if the mom (and dad) have a strong motivation, breastfeeding will be abandoned as soon he began. But I do not feel motivated at all. Indeed, you say want to try, but. Indeed, you say want to try, but NO EVENT you envisage that it may please you (how can you know in advance) and not that you can breastfeed exclusively, even if only 3 weeks, the time everything into place. Talk about breastfeeding in very negative terms ( "all I have already rejected" …). You seem to just want to give a feed from time to time, just to give you a clear conscience. Breastfeeding is something other than baby food and spinning him a dose of antibodies is all a state of mind. I believe it will never work because you have no desire at all. What I fear is that you still sharp as a failure … Then ask yourself what are your real motivations. You seem to have good reasons to give the bottle and you have very good experience with your great. The reasons you want to want to breastfeed and 20% are also valid in your eyes? "I advise you to make a choice: either you try really breastfeed (ie 100%, even a short time) and you ' to give really means is you. The reasons you want to want to breastfeed and 20% are also valid in your eyes? "I advise you to make a choice: either you try really breastfeed (ie 100%, even a short time) and you ' to give really means or Tudons the bottle. Whatever the choice, took it as you did to your great, the key being to believe in what we do, no matter the reasons. The rest were proute! I hope to have you helped and if you want more details, I will give them pleasure. Bisou!

I nursed 21 months and I am 100% agree with Ms. Armel. Or you want to breastfeed and you do at least a month without a bottle or you do not breastfeed. Breastfeeding is not easy, it must be motivated and you're obviously did not so my advice is to drop.

The best way to proceed is that you decide which suits you. You breastfeed as long as you have milk and you like.

Bah say that to have your milk nourishing requires that your child is in assertions often the first days to boost you. Enssuite I think you just manage your breastfeeding, for example, the first suckled at the breast, in bed Quiet, no bib 'to prepare enssuite bottle, and again why not the breasts in the afternoon or evening for sleep baby … I also baby 1,2,3,4,5, 6 and so on I think it bofbof. It's been kind of numbers … But good is fashionable right now in the "pregnancy".

The problem is that c c is a feeding that stimulates milk production … I'm afraid that your ratio is impossible … D moreover, c is when we begin to give the bottle that is c … beginning of the end! In addition to the birth, c is not recommended … The suction bottle or breast n is not the same, you risk cracks and other annoyances … More and more maternity units offer the "feeding welcome" … namely just breastfeed at birth for collostrum … C is always this … I had not n da priori, nor a way, or on the other. Quite the contrary, nobody around me had no breastfeeding and the breastfeeding demonized as binding. Me, I've taken it as "not to die stupid." Anyway, I could switch to a bottle if it was not n! Ben j've had 3 children and have never had a bib of their lives, despite the criticism … Do as you see fit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As you feel !!!!!!!!! But from experience, your ratio nursing bottle is almost impossible … Your totote are not bib that is filled when you want!

As bell. And in fact, say "bottle feeding." Breastfeeding is the breast.

The number of deaths is similar, but more concerned for a distant country and the misery that prevails in France. What do you think?

Comparison not very happy. Between an act which is optional and an unpredictable disaster, not comparable.

In case there is indeed dead, the other I see none. There the end of a potential human being be sure, but then if your wife had a miscarriage, you'll put him back on the manslaughter? I hope that when you talk about poverty, you mean that experienced by women (do not forget the men either) who has an abortion .. Regarding Haiti, indeed the Western world loves to meddle in the affairs of others. Maybe if some malicious did not rife for their own interests there, there would saved 200,000 lives … On one side we are dealing with personal choices, the other the result of the greed of some men … @ Foughali S "In the second case, that is due to a natural phenomenon for the moment the man is impotent and can not do anything to these natural disasters." How do you explain that Rep. Dominican There have been no damage? Perhaps this is due to the extreme poverty of Haiti, and the dilapidated buildings? And how did we get here eh?

I think that death is equal to another, was the only difference is that the first murders.

The 200 000 abortions in France are not of misery, but several causes, the most important is ignorance of how their body works and operation of contraception by women.

Only send more money to Haiti, cotisons us for these poor women who will not stop mourn their dead …!

In the second case, that is due to a natural phenomenon for the moment the man is impotent and can not do anything to these natural disasters. By cons, regarding the first case, we must admit that it was deliberate and intended, which consequently requires to ponder on this phenomenon that sometimes we must recognize is inevitable.

What is spectacular and interesting for television moves. The plight of Haitian children has upset many people while children murdered through abortion matter, since the majority are not fetuses or children, just small bits of meat that we can get rid without morality. inexcusable in France when contraception is free for the girls in the pmi. The education of parents is to bcp in these ivg unmarked. A girl of 15 years must be protected by information and discipline of these parents. Parents should no longer tolerate their daughters to have sex at home because this attitude worth consent to too many things.

The number of abortions in any way reflect the prevailing poverty in a country but the lack of an adequate prevention policy on contraception. Misery becomes real when the children from their early days, are delivered to them even want to enjoy the attention and love, real and not over-played their parents. Although non-voluntary (non-controlled) this lack of attention may amount to torture. In this context it seems more appropriate that pregnancy does not lead rather than torturing a child all his life (knowing that an adult then tends to reproduce on their own children the torment he has suffered). L ' Abortion is seen as a last appeal available not only to protect the mother any pain but also to prevent the suffering they may impose an unwanted child. But the best solution is obviously that pregnancy does not begin with adequate contraception. Alas, all. Alas, toutevolonté policy on contraception is severely hampered in some ultra-religious lobbies advocating a total taboo on the subject of sexuality have as a guideline abstention as ineffective and dangerous. They are often the same groups that oppose abortion, these fundamentalist groups whose spheres of influence over the extremists do not hesitate to commit murder against aillant some women resort to abortion or against the hospital staff. (Can we speak of fundamentalist terrorist groups?). In the United States for example, where these groups display their power rates of teenage pregnancy is 6 times higher than in France. Proof of a policy completely inadequate to the reality, Sarah Palin, a leader of the ultra-religious fundamentalism (and incidentally former candidate for the vice presidency of the United States) saw her daughter getting pregnant at age 17 years during the 2008 presidential campaign. As for those who still ignore the suffering of unwanted children and. As for those who still ignore the suffering of unwanted children ANDTHEIR parents demonstrate, many studies have reported strong correlations between the legalization of abortion and the decline in violent crime. Again, the United States have the highest prison population rate of all OECD. The question would have been especially knowing what would have been misery ambient France had prevented if those 200,000 abortions. For the rest I agree with the response of Creative Union of Creationists and stressed that the comparison is fallacious between personal choice that and abortion is a natural disaster.

The day the French of all ages will appreciate that abortion is not contraception the cows come home. I say this because I will be the mother of two little twin died at birth. 26 years after I 'm still marked with a hot iron. After the drama I am pregnant again and I was treated to special scrutiny of my pregnancy, which reflected very soon. My future baby measured 1cm5 it had small arms short legs, I was moved. I said at the time that we should spend an echo to all mothers who believed in abortion.

Haiti has a fool s l c abortion is more important

A country as developed and civilized who would have thought it a shame for the French women! For Haiti is a settling of accounts between him and God, I do not meddle.

I had an abortion 18/11/2009.une the disruption of hormones, I feel a little pain for almost 4 days and still nothing, I don not use pellules or anything, is it normal or it must wait again,? MERCI D AVANCE

since you do not have any desire pregnancy! it might be time to think about contraception not! there all full-price and safe for you! the condoms for example! There are even some latex or if you suffer from allergies! for your rule leaves the longer it will pe a day longer, if you want to reassure you do a pregnancy test! but please think a form of contraception! abortion is not one!

For an abortion you're supposed to be followed by a gynecologist. You did not do the inspection visit? To him he must ask the question!

its normal it happens

Let your body recovers it can go another month without it being abnormal. But be careful because you have no way of knowing when ovulation takes place.

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