Moreover, to everyone who oath that France is the eldest daughter of the Church, I want to tell them to open their eyes. The eldest daughter, if not dead, is frankly dying, let us make a quick observation of what is happening today: – abortion is legal – Noel Mamere married homosexual couples – tend to PACS substitute for marriage – divorce is doing very well thank you for them – Contraception has become commonplace now – adultery ceased to be a ground for divorce for fault And when you project a little, we'll talk about what ? – euthanasia – adoption by gay couples – cloning Both bodies of principles that steered the Church, all concepts it utterly condemned. And that became (or will probably) very common in France. While France's Christian tradition, I regret to say that it is in your fantasies. If you want a bit of Puritanism z'avez to exile you to the States … my ass Breeze bless! @ Sonnen: I like. Brise bless my ass! @ Sonnen: j'aimebien your portrait of my grandmother's outrageous and it actually suits me. Except that, to be unworthy, should still be able to be … For the rest, if life is that I can to educate my tadpole (which is no longer one way), I choose guardians based on their value. And sexual orientation (orientation I mean, no deviance) is certainly not a value. It is like we are not gay political activist. It is because he is, that's all. @ Citi: I leave it to the right of Christians to practice their religion, but I also leaves Muslims the right to do so, including the construction of mosques if that they want. Muslims who do not require you to join their worship contrary to what I read here and there … This freedom, I also leave to the Jews. And the Buddhists. And even Scientologists. Do not care any so, I'm an atheist. And probably the coolest with religions that the believers in the end I have a feeling …
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Go live where you want: you do not miss us!
Do not care pretty well! I'm an atheist, so the Christian tradition .. you know me what I think! Religion is not my thing (and not even the thing with feathers!) .. It's essentially a secular country with a Christian religious tendency, but secular first! And it works well before religion
you say "Then France Christian tradition, I regret to say that it is in your fantasies" – so you think that France is not traditionally Christian: I do not see your problem. all Anyway, if you are feeling ill and live in France (which is your right) you can try to emigrate to a country to be closer to your aspirations and your philosophical or religious
… of "secular tradition since 1 century you mean! — and happily! the thank you France
You are aware that the bottom of the pool that gives the kick savior. By the way … you really want to be euthanized? It's great that your heirs inherit faster. But imagine thee, still want to enjoy life … even very old? I'll see you in double well unfit mother who gets a love story 80 brooms to the outrage of your descendants: – "Grandma is more than your age – Do not care, in my head I'm younger than you "While gaff euthanasia, eh … really love your tadpole that is raised by a gay? Whenever I read or Olive Hanni, not to mention Peret … I think it is absolutely necessary to fight against it. The immorality is serious at this point. Neither nor Hanni Olive are able to admit that men can not be interested in other men. In other words, if these two had the education of children in care, they try to breed them neutered to make other gays. Cloning of organs … you know what is. you know that there aderrière. Did you read the laughter of the clone in SF? We come to this. Making be cloned to serve as living organ farm. Do not you think that little nightmare? Hitler was a choir boy next door! @ Olive: You've forgotten what you're allowed to go out to Mehdi? Not me. It's strange: whenever a troll attacks a homo qriste, you take the defense of the troll … Sometimes I put two and two! I understood.
But if France is in this state, thanks to voters who vote like c * ns for thirty years! a series of bad choices and now it is up to his neck. But we can say that Always is based on tradition of Christendom, even what kind Christmas or Easter celebrations. You reject Christianity, but not leave it offers!
Hey baby, just in case it'd have escaped the church is separated from the state. I say this .. if you would have forgotten. You know our ancestors … 1789 … etc.. You do what you want from your sweet ass, but leaves the Christians the right to have their beliefs and traditions. They do not get you a gun to his head to force you to come to worship or to church. Christians in France are moderate, they annoy anyone, do not proselytize (except for TJ, but they … well that's another story), nor impose standards of dress. No really! Faith is personal. joust @ I am Protestant heart, I have nothing, absolutely nothing against homosexuals. If I know the Bible, I also know that its precepts are of another age, sent to a primitive church who sought its brands. Morality is the honesty with oneself to its creator and to others. This is not to be more holy and moral, in my view even saints (who in the Protestant tradition are believers). This is not to be more holy and moral, in my view even saints (who in the Protestant tradition are the believers) are sinners. In this country you say you're a Christian is considered a dark asshole, you Muslim and you say you're offered a pretty tolerant. Still the theory of the glass half empty or half full … @ author but I know that mosques are being built, a lot of councils granted them land for a symbolic € 1. I never said I was against, not by the minarets cons …
It depends on what angle you look at it. After all, there are plenty of churches and cathedrals are architectural gems. There is a beautiful medieval sculpture, objects of worship as well. There are medieval manuscripts and incunabula splendid. He may need to know enough about religion to understand all this. So do not deny the roots there and forget everything else.
Yet it is. This is not denying the history of the country that will move things forward. But to say it has roots and Christian traditions, does not mean that France must be fully Christianized. France is also a country combining Latin and Germanic traditions … it does not match that neither cultural canons (not quite Germanic, Latin or completely). France is in fact IS a Christian tradition, like it or not, as many countries, but it is not a theocracy, is a secular republic. But we still can not deny his past and has had considerable influence in Catholic thought and the broader Judeo-Christian about this company. And that influence continues even though it is less direct (roughly the pope and the papists no longer dictate their law in the country) it is nonetheless very present in the prevailing morality of the country even when it is detached from the religion. That said, that France is heir to a long influence. Having said that France is heir to a long-influencejudéo Christian does not imply that the country should be closed to other modes of thought and thus denied any right to exist in those areas from non-Judeo-Christian cultural . It says just one thing: To deny this influence is harmful to me than wanting to make the only valid and acceptable, as if the country should close any outside input.
In the end a French woman who speaks correctly and objectively! For the info, France is no longer the eldest daughter of the church! since the church itself became the ideal refuge for pedophiles! Kiry Breeze!
Sonnen, thou art taken with a fit of insanity, again? Really, you like many others lend intentions that are not, and make everything goes to trial. You like ridicule at this point? Bravo is successful, I leave to others the task of heading to pick your writings with occasional bursts of laughter. To answer you, Aeolus, although church and state are separated for 105 years, even though our society has evolved and advanced, France is still a country of "Christian tradition". The eldest daughter is neither dead nor dying, she was simply emancipated and liberated itself from the straitjacket secular. ————— loool because Mehdi is an example? Mehdi, who continually and constantly repeats to anyone who will listen that gay rebeus fantasize about? And even if you deduce from this that you dare to write? " Aaarf, let me laugh!
You can not rewrite history, and if France do not like it you can steer you elsewhere, but I'd be surprised because there are many just in France that we can afford to spit. Then you'd better shut up before saying bullshit. Given what you've just written you can measure the level of your intelligence, you're pathetic.
But no one prevents the other tradition and Judeo-Christian and Greco-Latin culture is a historical fact, and Christianity in particular the rights of man (and yes …) of course Dogmatic religion has a vocation and society must develop, without reporting to a particular dogma, but it is unnecessary to have a conflict between Judeo-Christian Greco-Latin and the current republican laws is important to the principles
You're right! but not blessed steup '!
Well, whether you like it or not, France is a Christian tradition. Sorry but you do not referas history. Even me, it pisses me off because I'm anti-clerical as a person and yet I acknowledge having been educated according to Christian standards. Although secular, the moral principles that govern our society are obtained in line with this tradition and even religious people do not live according to 3 under these standards must be blind not to see. So, that France is no longer what it was, it's something but to claim that the social pattern of France no longer meets the standards Christian is to be ignorant of the workings of our society. Just have to see the judicial system to be convinced too lenient sentences for heinous crimes often .. . There is a social infrastructure based on the fact of turning the other cheek to act this way..
but am not blessed your ass! what France! I pity!
Gast says it all.
YES "foo" France is culture and tradition of the Christian faith for 1500 years since Clovis 1. Teach or review the history of our country !!!!! BUT maybe your level of education did not exceed the CM2!! Do not displease thee, and in agreement with several users if our country does not suit you GATE is all right.
You think the decline is changing. Funny concept dwarf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Melons do not religions with politics, we see what happens in Muslim countries, religion or dictate the law. They are all dictatorships
What you say makes me laugh too: It's like if you refuse to be the son of your father! "It is impossible. PS: Denial is a psychological problem that can be treated …
I reject the idea of living in a country claiming to Muslim tradition. Am I anti-Muslim (Islamophobia)?
France is a country of Judeo Christian "The denial is absurd! We can certainly lament and tap your feet, shake his chips not getting excited because I do not want to and I do not care … the history of France is there in majesty that says France has a legacy of unparalleled richness and we are the inheritors, "and this magnificent heritage comes from Judaism and Christianity! You're not happy? Then what are you waiting to destroy instance, the cathedrals? Setting fire to all Louvre paintings that evoke the legacy? Go Chick!
Aeolus wind that does DIT. Aeolus is NO than wind. Leave this country that you're not well. Sudan and Afghanistan t'iront like a glove.
Today France is a secular state in which no religion takes precedence over the other. Secularism, this also means the protection of religious choice, which remains the private domain. We can worship as we wants the Catholic religion is no better nor worse in France than the Protestant, Orthodox, Jewish or Muslim. Or atheist like me. So you're very well in France.
Eol, it seems that you mix a lot of stuff. gay culture and gay marriage come largely from the USA, bigoted Christian country par excellence, or tell you that cathos to retreat. I do not confuse atheism with sexual liberation. in Anglo-Saxon it goes very well with religion then. I personally am an atheist and I am not a religion nor sex.
Overall I agree with you but I believe that religions are an obstacle to developing social, cultural, economic etc. … Everyone has the right to believe what he likes but this must remain strictly personal, religion is a choice, one must accept all the consequence and not try to impose his views or his own forbidden. J would like also to say to those who consider the history of France (and Europe) reduces colonization of the Semitic cultures from around the Middle East is quite reductive European history is much richer than that, the ignorant are those who have been brainwashed by the priests and the company that believe in Christianity that stop And to finish I would say no you is not anti France on the contrary